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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2004, 01:57:46 am »
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If the poll was still around I'd vote for Lindbergh.
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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2004, 01:53:51 am »
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Lindbergh sounds really really familiar, but I don't know why...
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2004, 01:57:03 am »
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Oh, the Lindbergh kidnapping. I did a research paper on it.
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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2004, 06:33:15 pm »
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Oh, the Lindbergh kidnapping. I did a research paper on it.
He also was the first to fly solo across the Atlantic.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2004, 05:34:17 pm »
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Lindbergh was a Nazi.
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2004, 05:54:24 pm »
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Oh, the Lindbergh kidnapping. I did a research paper on it.

Led by none other than H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Sr.

I mean, the investigation was led.

General Norman Schwarzkopf is not Charles Lindbergh's son.

Just needed to make that clear.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2004, 06:18:26 pm »
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Whoa! That means Hitler takes over Europe.

Ah, Hitler did take over Europe.

The key would have been Lindbergh's policy toward Japan.  He may have been more aggressive, expecially with the Phillipines threatend.

Conversely, Hitler might have been reluctant to support the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.  We could have een "The second World War," as a European War and the Nippo-American War, as a Pacific War. 
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2004, 06:35:01 pm »
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Lindbergh's Top Cabinet Officials:

Secreatary of State: Herbert C. Hoover
Atorney General: Thomas Dewey
Secretary of Defense:Douglas MacArthur
Secretary of the Treasury: Andrew Mellon
Secretary of the Navy: Dwight Eisenhower





It would have to be Secretary of War (or possibly Secretary of the Navy).  Eisenhower was a colonel at the time, so it's unlikely.  Maybe someone who was a follower of Billy Mitchell.

I also would class Lindbergh as a Nazi, though he was sympathetic to Hitler.  He was the leader of the "America First" movement, so I'm not sure he would have compromised that position.
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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2004, 07:39:48 pm »
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this is funny, im actually doing a project on lindbergh now, there is actually a what if book written about thsi topic, lindbergh beating FDR. It's called The Plot Against America : A Novel by Philip Roth...
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2004, 07:42:14 pm »
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this is funny, im actually doing a project on lindbergh now, there is actually a what if book written about thsi topic, lindbergh beating FDR. It's called The Plot Against America : A Novel by Philip Roth...

I think that's how this thread was inspired.
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2004, 07:45:40 pm »
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This would be a good President Forever scenario.
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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2004, 07:55:26 pm »
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I would vote for FDR. I wouldn't vote.
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2004, 08:26:29 pm »
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Is this thread serious?  FDR against a nazi?  FDR would win in a landslide with or without Lindbergh's popularity
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2004, 10:19:27 pm »
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Is this thread serious? FDR against a nazi? FDR would win in a landslide with or without Lindbergh's popularity
Hey buddy. Lindbergh wasn't a nazi. The nazis were a political party in Germany. Lindbergh was an isolationist like Joe Kennedy. Lindbergh ran an isolationist organization and he, like Senator Taft, supported the war against Japan. He gets tarnished with the Nazi label for visiting Germany, why doesn't Chamberlain or Kennedy get tarred with that name?
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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2004, 11:13:53 pm »
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An active supporter of Nazi Germany vs. FDR.  Never thought I would say this, but I vote for FDR.
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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2004, 12:16:49 pm »
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Is this thread serious? FDR against a nazi? FDR would win in a landslide with or without Lindbergh's popularity
Hey buddy. Lindbergh wasn't a nazi. The nazis were a political party in Germany. Lindbergh was an isolationist like Joe Kennedy. Lindbergh ran an isolationist organization and he, like Senator Taft, supported the war against Japan. He gets tarnished with the Nazi label for visiting Germany, why doesn't Chamberlain or Kennedy get tarred with that name?

lol. He accepted the German medal of honor and refused to return it after the outcry because he thought it would be an insult to the Nazi leadership. His letters and diaries showed that he admired Hitler and considered him a great leader. One of his speeches at an anti-war rally blamed "the Jewish race" for trying to get the US involved, and claimed he didn't consider American Jews to be fully American.
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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2004, 01:25:19 pm »
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2004, 03:41:43 pm »
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Write-in Thomas Dewey. He's not a conservative, but he's not as far left as FDR and he's not an isolationist like Lindy.
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« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2004, 04:10:44 pm »
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Is this thread serious? FDR against a nazi? FDR would win in a landslide with or without Lindbergh's popularity
Hey buddy. Lindbergh wasn't a nazi. The nazis were a political party in Germany. Lindbergh was an isolationist like Joe Kennedy. Lindbergh ran an isolationist organization and he, like Senator Taft, supported the war against Japan. He gets tarnished with the Nazi label for visiting Germany, why doesn't Chamberlain or Kennedy get tarred with that name?

lol. He accepted the German medal of honor and refused to return it after the outcry because he thought it would be an insult to the Nazi leadership. His letters and diaries showed that he admired Hitler and considered him a great leader. One of his speeches at an anti-war rally blamed "the Jewish race" for trying to get the US involved, and claimed he didn't consider American Jews to be fully American.

I think Hitler was a great leader. Leadership isn't always a good characteristic. Leadership is getting people to follow you. So, Lindbergh admires his abilities to lead people, that makes him a NAZI? And about him being anti-semetic, you forget that alot of people are anti-semetic. The church was anti-semetic for hundreds of years, doesn't mean they're NAZIs.

What Lindbergh was:
an isolationist
a patriot
an anti-semite
not a NAZI
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2007, 01:18:18 pm »
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Gee. Lindbergh seems like a total waste of sperm after his transatlantic flight.
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2007, 01:47:18 pm »
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to be honast I find the Roth novel to be extremely offensive saying that a Lindburg presidency would be a fasicst presidency when FDR was the one who put Japenese in concentration camps while Lindburg was a libertarian.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2007, 05:19:17 pm »
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to be honast I find the Roth novel to be extremely offensive saying that a Lindburg presidency would be a fasicst presidency when FDR was the one who put Japenese in concentration camps while Lindburg was a libertarian.

I don't think you read it in the right spirit. Besides, Lindbergh may have been a libertarian, but he was also indisputably, at least for a time, a Nazi sympathizer and at least a borderline anti-Semite.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2007, 05:32:16 pm »
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to be honast I find the Roth novel to be extremely offensive saying that a Lindburg presidency would be a fasicst presidency when FDR was the one who put Japenese in concentration camps while Lindburg was a libertarian.

And are'nt you the definition of a caring, kind Libertarian?Wink
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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2009, 02:26:31 am »
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I would have voted for Lindbergh
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2009, 09:05:17 am »
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In 1940, isolationism was becoming a dying tendency as one after another ethnic group became anti-Nazi. Jews were obvious enough -- then Czechs, Poles, Dutch, Belgians, French, Danes, and Norwegians. Nazism became an embarrassment for German-Americans. Almost anyone with strong ties to Britain of course was anti-Nazi. 
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