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« on: May 05, 2004, 06:13:56 pm »
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In 1940 the Republicans didn't like any of their choices. Thomas Dewey and Wendell Wilkie were too leftist, and Robert Taft was too boring and unelectable. Senate Minortiy Leader Charles McNarry offered a compromise, famed aviator Charles Lindbergh. He was well known, a Conservative, electable, and able to run a strong campaign against President Roosevelt. Lindbergh was sweapt into the Republican nomination on the 4th Ballot, winning all but one vote. That vote was a curtisy vote for former President Herbert Hoover. To balance out Lindbergh's staunch isalationism and Conservatism the Republicans chose Wendell Wilkie for Vice President.

Now the Campaign of 1940 has began. Will president Roosevelt be defeated by an isalationist America. How well will Lindbergh do?  
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 06:14:51 pm »
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Anybody But Roosevelt!  That socialist.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2004, 06:36:04 pm »
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I would have voted for Lindbergh
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2004, 06:39:45 pm »
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Lindbergh, but his theory of isolationism was clearly wrong pre-WW2.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2004, 10:54:16 pm »
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Yikes...is this poll serious?
Lindbergh was rather clearly a Nazi sympathizer and would have been a dreadful President.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2004, 11:05:56 pm »
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Yikes...is this poll serious?
Lindbergh was rather clearly a Nazi sympathizer and would have been a dreadful President.

Better than FDR.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2004, 02:04:11 am »
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Yikes...is this poll serious?
Lindbergh was rather clearly a Nazi sympathizer and would have been a dreadful President.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2004, 04:26:28 am »
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FDR would still have won in a romp....

...bit like if it had been John Glenn vs Ronald Reagan in 1984...

...things where good in the USA in 1940, FDR was very popular the economy was roaring back into life and people felt optimistic... Republicans could only conceivable beaten FDR in 1944 with a  number of events happening to hurt Franklin in the run up...


Lindbergh would have done better than Wilkie but there would have been very very little chance he could have beaten FDR at the height of his power and prestige...



 
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2004, 04:54:01 pm »
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As much as it would hurt me to vote against someone with Sweidsh heritage I have to vote for FDR here.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2004, 04:55:53 pm »
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Well it's a tie and I can't make a map with a tie. No vote for the Socialist or the Prohibitionist! WOW!
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2004, 05:01:36 pm »
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Lindbergh warned US against Germany's improved air force. Combined with his isolationism this led people to think that he was actually a Nazi, but he wasn't. However I voted FDR. Isolationism wasn't really an option here.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2004, 05:02:00 pm »
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Based on poll tie and the real 1940 results.

FDR: 213

Lindbergh: 318
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2004, 05:04:01 pm »
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Whoa! That means Hitler takes over Europe.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 05:20:34 pm »
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Lindbergh's Top Cabinet Officials:

Secreatary of State: Herbert C. Hoover
Atorney General: Thomas Dewey
Secretary of Defense:Douglas MacArthur
Secretary of the Treasury: Andrew Mellon
Secretary of the Navy: Dwight Eisenhower



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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2004, 05:41:21 pm »
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Whoa! That means Hitler takes over Europe.

sh**t happens... Wink Sad
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 06:07:08 pm »
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FDR
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Based on poll tie and the real 1940 results.

FDR: 213

Lindbergh: 318

This map just reminded me that the South has dominated American politics since 1930.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2004, 07:16:29 pm »
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Lindbergh was a closet nazi Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2004, 07:41:07 pm »
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Lindbergh was a closet nazi Tongue

FDR flaunted his socialism.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2004, 08:47:23 pm »
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FDR, absolutely, even if he were a true Northern European/Israeli style full out democratic socialist (which he wasn't). Lindberg was a Nazi, nobody wanted it said for a while. (Oswald Mosley was protected until like the 60s, after all, and he had nothing like Lindbergh's popularity). If Lindbergh wins, either the Nazis will conquer all of Europe, or the Soviets will. Britain will not be able to liberate diddly squat even if the USSR does really really well. (If Britain occupies Narvik, the Peloponessos, and Sicily, It'll be a miracle).
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2004, 08:50:05 pm »
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Oh yes, but I would write in a veep. Garner, Truman, Ike, Marshall, Hull, Morgenthau, Patton just for laughs. Even that slimy Isolationist Joe Kenedy, just not Wallace!
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2004, 03:22:14 pm »
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FDR
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2004, 03:53:40 pm »
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Lindbergh was a closet nazi Tongue

FDR flaunted his socialism.

I'd rather have a Democratic Socialist than an undemocratic Nazi puppet (and in the end that’s what it would have boiled down to) any day of the week…

And FDR was no Socialist, check out Conrad Black’s Biography of him (Black’s was until recently the owner of the leading conservative English newspaper “The Telegraph”), Black gives a well written, detailed and balanced analysis of FDR and his life…very interesting, if very long to boot!

…but to repeat Huey Long was a socialist FDR was a populist open to giving the country a radical Keynesian program to get it working again and further more FDR was a patriot.. Lindbergh was a Fascist and a Nazi sympathiser who would have sold this nation down the river and allowed Japan and Germany free reign while he would have not given a care about defending democracy or the USA’s interests or allies…    
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2004, 03:58:27 pm »
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I'm pleased to say that FDR is now hammering the not-so-closet Nazi
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2004, 09:31:03 pm »
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Anybody But Roosevelt!  That socialist.

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