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Emsworth
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« on: October 19, 2005, 06:12:28 PM »

Introduction
1. Whereas, many supplies of crude oil, from which gasoline is refined, are in strategically unsafe areas of the world.
2. Whereas, this leaves a gasoline prices vulnerable to volatile flucuations due to political instability in aforesaid areas.
3. Whereas, high gasoline prices present a threat to the stability of the Atlasian economy, and consequently, its national security.
4. Whereas, combustion of gasoline contributes to the theory popularly known as Global Warming.
5. Be it resolved, that it is desirable to reduce the demand for gasoline within the Atlasian economy.
6. One such method is to reduce the combustion of gasoline in motor vehicles by increasing fuel efficiency.

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1. All passenger vehicles, as defined by the federal CAFE standards, produced for sale in Republic of Atlasia in fiscal year 2005 or 2006, or an area subject to its jurisdiction, shall be required to have an average fuel economy of at least 30 miles per gallon. Failure to comply shall incur a duty of $2000 upon sale for each vehicle.
2. All light trucks, as defined by the federal CAFE standards, produced for sale in the Republic of Atlasia in fiscal year 2005 or 2006, or an area subject to its jurisdiction, shall be required to have an average fuel economy of at least 22 miles per gallon. Failure to comply shall incur a duty of $2000 upon sale for each vehicle.
3. The required average fuel economy to avoid incurring a duty shall rise for both passenger vehicles and light trucks by two miles per gallon in each fiscal year, beginning in fiscal year 2007.
4. The duty incurred for failure to meet the average fuel economy standard shall rise to $3000 in fiscal year 2008.
5. The duty incurred for failure to meet the average fuel economy standard shall rise to $5000 in fiscal year 2010.
6. The duty incurred for failure to meet the average fuel economy standard shall rise to $10000 in fiscal year 2012.


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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 02:19:03 PM »

Is any action being taken regarding this bill?
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 02:22:27 PM »

I'm awaiting debate.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 02:27:42 PM »

Suprise, suprise I support this legislation
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005, 02:40:35 PM »

Could you explain to me what this actually does Al?
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2005, 02:44:41 PM »

Could you explain to me what this actually does Al?

The idea is to make cars and all that more fuel efficient meaning that we won't have to use as much oil as we do now and that a smaller percentage will be from unstable countries. It should also have the effect of lowering emmissions.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2005, 02:47:18 PM »

Thanks Al, I re-read it and I'll probably be voting for this. I'd suggest that if we want to actually have a vote on this bill before this Senate session closes and we start discussing the reforms that nobody posts here, although nobody has to. (3 days and then 24 hours to wait and see if it passes)
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2005, 02:49:34 PM »

Thanks Al, I re-read it and I'll probably be voting for this. I'd suggest that if we want to actually have a vote on this bill before this Senate session closes and we start discussing the reforms that nobody posts here, although nobody has to. (3 days and then 24 hours to wait and see if it passes)

Why the hell do we have to wait 3 days for?
This was put on the floor a week ago.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2005, 02:51:01 PM »

Thanks Al, I re-read it and I'll probably be voting for this. I'd suggest that if we want to actually have a vote on this bill before this Senate session closes and we start discussing the reforms that nobody posts here, although nobody has to. (3 days and then 24 hours to wait and see if it passes)

Why the hell do we have to wait 3 days for?
This was put on the floor a week ago.

Yes, you're right, what the hell was I thinking?

If nobody minds I'd like to motion for a vote. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2005, 03:22:21 PM »

If nobody minds I'd like to motion for a vote. Smiley

Seconded.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2005, 09:11:08 AM »

3. The required average fuel economy to avoid incurring a duty shall rise for both passenger vehicles and light trucks by two miles per gallon in each fiscal year, beginning in fiscal year 2007.
I'd prefer if this clause had a time limit in it (ie, from 2007 to say 2016, instead of from 2007 on for ever and ever)
Apart from that, I like this bill very much. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2005, 10:58:15 AM »

If it's a good idea to circumvent economic price-clearing on vehicles, then why not just charge a large fee on every vehicle sold to encourage fewer vehicles?
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2005, 08:20:43 PM »

clauses 4-6 should be based on percentage of total price, oerhaps?
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2005, 03:33:48 AM »

clauses 4-6 should be based on percentage of total price, oerhaps?
In that case, clauses 1 and 2 should be as well. This is probably a good idea, btw.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2005, 05:08:37 AM »

I think you'd have to have some set aount, say $1000, and then the rest floating according to the coast of the vehicle. Otherwise, companies might reduce their price, etc.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2005, 09:03:43 AM »

Have fun riding bicycles, Atlasia, when all your car companies go out of business.
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2005, 10:22:50 AM »

yes, as all the japanese and european manufacturers have.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2005, 10:28:20 AM »

yes, as all the japanese and european manufacturers have.

These companies can charge more for their goods.  Atlasian car companies are struggling to compete as it is.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2005, 10:29:37 AM »

Here's a hypothetical:
I am a house painter.  I am either forced to buy a compact car to transport my painting supplies and ladders, or I must pay thousands of extra dollars to the government in order to buy a product that suits my needs.  Is that fair?
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2005, 10:35:48 AM »

http://www.ford.com.au/range/econovan/models/
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2005, 09:38:24 PM »


Ah, excellent, so I can pay to have a van imported from Australia.  Sounds practical for the average Atlasian worker.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2005, 09:41:27 PM »

I pretty much agree with Q's sentiments.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2005, 03:20:26 AM »


Ah, excellent, so I can pay to have a van imported from Australia.  Sounds practical for the average Atlasian worker.

I see no reason why they can't be built here. They are cheap, have a large load capacity, and reasonably fuel efficiency, especially when coverted to diesel or LPG.

I will use this opportunity to ask the Ford Motor Company to consider producing this model in Atlasia. The people of the Pacific would be honoured to host a plant producing this and other Ford vehicles.
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2005, 04:20:02 AM »


Ah, excellent, so I can pay to have a van imported from Australia.  Sounds practical for the average Atlasian worker.

I see no reason why they can't be built here. They are cheap, have a large load capacity, and reasonably fuel efficiency, especially when coverted to diesel or LPG.

I will use this opportunity to ask the Ford Motor Company to consider producing this model in Atlasia. The people of the Pacific would be honoured to host a plant producing this and other Ford vehicles.

The Ford Motor Company is too busy lobbying Senators not to pass this legislation. 

They thank you for your concern, but have no interest in it at this time.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2005, 06:29:14 PM »

I motion for this bill to be put to a vote.
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