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Question: Which issue do you care about more?
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Abortion
 
#2
Gay Marriage
 
#3
equal
 
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Platypus
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2005, 04:16:52 AM »

Gay Marriage. With 'abortion'...I'm over that debate. Gay marriage is a basic right in a civilised society, under that name or another.
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2005, 06:56:33 AM »

Abortion

It is also my biggest hot-button issue.
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2005, 07:57:00 AM »

I'd say abortion since I'd rather be a gay man who can't marry than be a woman who was forced to give up my body for 9 months.
"Forced"? Ah.
Ever heard of contraception?

It is still forced, Mordac.  Hence the intervention of the State and their jackbooted thugs.

What' how is consensualy entering unprotected sex forced?
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2005, 08:48:35 AM »

I'd say abortion since I'd rather be a gay man who can't marry than be a woman who was forced to give up my body for 9 months.
"Forced"? Ah.
Ever heard of contraception?

It is still forced, Mordac.  Hence the intervention of the State and their jackbooted thugs.

What' how is consensualy entering unprotected sex forced?

That's not what's being forced, obviously, slow Mordac.  What is being forced is the subsequent carriage of the fetal tissues to term.  By jack booted thugs no less.
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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2005, 12:30:02 PM »

They are both considered to be necessities in a society which, in its stage of advancement, should be considered abhorrences. Abortion is a more urgent one, yet gay marriage is more stealthy.
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2005, 11:34:45 PM »

I would say equal. 

As a libertarian, a woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body.  However, personally, I am pro-life, and would strongly try to encourage her not to have it done.  If the fetus is viable (around 28 weeks, I think), then I think is basically murder.  But the first two trimesters, she can do what she wants.

Gay marriage.  I think gays are treated as 2nd class citizens, as least as far as the ability to have long-term relationships recognized by the state.  A gay couple (male or female) could be together for 10 years, and should anything happen to either one, they may be denied visitation rights in the hospital, no rights of survivorship, and no legal rights as far as inheritance. 

A hetero couple who haven't been married are considered common law after 7 years in PA, so all of items mentioned above will automiatically kick in.  For a gay couple, there are tons of forms to be filled out, notarized, filed, and in a lot of cases, consultation with lawyers to make sure all the bases are covered.

Compare that to the cost of a wedding license.....
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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2005, 05:26:18 PM »

both
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2005, 10:59:48 PM »

Abortion. I really don't care about gay marriage at all.
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2005, 11:58:06 PM »

Easily abortion. There is really no contest between a human life be eliminated and gays marrying.

Though opebo would like to cast this as an argument solely rooted in theology, there are many other reasons to care. Emsworth has noted the legal aspects. I would add a scientific basis - we have a standard recognized in 50 states that heart beat and brain activity in a human constitute life for the purpose of determining death. A consistent scientific definition would apply to the unborn as well.
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2005, 06:17:35 PM »

Easily abortion. There is really no contest between a human life be eliminated and gays marrying.

Though opebo would like to cast this as an argument solely rooted in theology, there are many other reasons to care. Emsworth has noted the legal aspects. I would add a scientific basis - we have a standard recognized in 50 states that heart beat and brain activity in a human constitute life for the purpose of determining death. A consistent scientific definition would apply to the unborn as well.

Exactly, Judiasm (my religion) actually supports abortion.
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2005, 11:07:18 AM »

Gay marriage, as it is the only thing that affects me. I don;t really have a problem with abortion at all. It's not as big a divisive issue as it is in America
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2005, 11:37:19 AM »

Abortion without a doubt. I deeply care about giving gays equal rights, but I do believe abortion is the taking of human life, so...


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Well hello, idiot! Wink  I hope you enjoy your stay here Cheesy

P.S. When you get 25 posts be sure to check out the Fantasy Boards, they're great! Grin
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2005, 11:52:15 AM »

I'd say abortion since I'd rather be a gay man who can't marry than be a woman who was forced to give up my body for 9 months.
"Forced"? Ah.
Ever heard of contraception?

It is still forced, Mordac.  Hence the intervention of the State and their jackbooted thugs.

What' how is consensualy entering unprotected sex forced?

That's not what's being forced, obviously, slow Mordac.  What is being forced is the subsequent carriage of the fetal tissues to term.  By jack booted thugs no less.

When a woman gets pregnant, she sings a contract with the foetus that she will provide for it during 9 months.
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« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2005, 04:21:56 PM »

Gay marriage
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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2005, 02:04:52 AM »

Abortion without a doubt. I deeply care about giving gays equal rights, but I do believe abortion is the taking of human life, so...


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A pro-life Democrat!  Welcome! Grin
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2005, 02:32:43 AM »

Easily abortion. There is really no contest between a human life be eliminated and gays marrying.

Though opebo would like to cast this as an argument solely rooted in theology, there are many other reasons to care. Emsworth has noted the legal aspects. I would add a scientific basis - we have a standard recognized in 50 states that heart beat and brain activity in a human constitute life for the purpose of determining death. A consistent scientific definition would apply to the unborn as well.

Wait, wait... someone other than me is trying to apply a scientific approach to abortion?

I'm shocked. Tongue
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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2005, 05:56:41 AM »

It's not as big a divisive issue as it is in America

True, but do you know why? Because it was legalised by the legislature, not the courts. Because it has a sane limit on it and wasn't a blanket legalisation. Because the absurd idea that women have a "right" to an abortion had nothing to do with it at all.
If abortion had been legalised in the same way as it was in the U.S, the issue would be about as important (especially in Lancashire).
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2005, 07:52:55 AM »

Abortion without a doubt. I deeply care about giving gays equal rights, but I do believe abortion is the taking of human life, so...


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A pro-life Democrat!  Welcome! Grin

Now please join the Religious Party.
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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2005, 03:58:45 AM »


What's the difference? Tongue
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