Am I Anti-American?

[dazzleman]

Dude, you already did this once before a while back.

[dazzleman]

At this rate, dazzleman will even say that goldfish are anti-American.

Right.  BRTD is so far the only person here I have said that about.

[dazzleman]

At this rate, dazzleman will even say that goldfish are anti-American.

Right.  BRTD is so far the only person here I have said that about.

You've said opebo hates America before, and called MoveOn a "Hate America" group, meaning you must also put jfern into that category as he pretty much is a clone of everything they say.

Opebo admits to his anti-Americanism openly, while you do not.  And moveon.org is a hate America group, no question.

[dazzleman]

I love how people take out the "you hate America" card when they can't debate.

Not true.  I've debated BRTD plenty.  But talking to him is a dialogue of the deaf.  I could have a better dialogue with a cement wall.  I wasn't even hurling it as an accusation, because frankly, I doubt it bothers him that much.  I was just making a casual observation of my perception of his overall attitude.

[dazzleman]

At this rate, dazzleman will even say that goldfish are anti-American.

Right.  BRTD is so far the only person here I have said that about.

You've said opebo hates America before, and called MoveOn a "Hate America" group, meaning you must also put jfern into that category as he pretty much is a clone of everything they say.

Opebo admits to his anti-Americanism openly, while you do not.  And moveon.org is a hate America group, no question.

Yet you fail to provide any evidence of how exactly they hate America.

If a human being with huge breasts and a fine female form walked down the street, would you demand proof that she was a woman before you hit on her?

Moveon.org's anti-Americanism is so obvious that if you need proof of it, you are obviously far too obtuse to comprehend what you are getting proof of.

[dazzleman]

I love how people take out the "you hate America" card when they can't debate.

Not true.  I've debated BRTD plenty.  But talking to him is a dialogue of the deaf.  I could have a better dialogue with a cement wall.  I wasn't even hurling it as an accusation, because frankly, I doubt it bothers him that much.  I was just making a casual observation of my perception of his overall attitude.

Its just a way to victimize yourself.

right...whatever...you're putting me to sleep...

[dazzleman]

I see nothing anti-American about them at all. Only anti-Bush. Therefore if you consider that anti-American, you must consider everything anti-Bush to be anti-American.

Your reasoning powers are severely constricted.

[dazzleman]

I see nothing anti-American about them at all. Only anti-Bush. Therefore if you consider that anti-American, you must consider everything anti-Bush to be anti-American.

Your reasoning powers are severely constricted.

OK, then name someone who hates Bush as much as me and jfern you don't consider anti-American.

Give me a few names and I'll tell you.  I don't exactly keep a list of what everybody thinks of the president at any given moment.

[dazzleman]

I see nothing anti-American about them at all. Only anti-Bush. Therefore if you consider that anti-American, you must consider everything anti-Bush to be anti-American.

Your reasoning powers are severely constricted.

OK, then name someone who hates Bush as much as me and jfern you don't consider anti-American.

Give me a few names and I'll tell you.  I don't exactly keep a list of what everybody thinks of the president at any given moment.

OK, do you think John Kerry hates America?

No.

[dazzleman]

Well then it's odd that all these supposed America-haters would support him.

Not at all.  From their point of view, he was the better of the two options.  Most of Kerry's voters were not America-haters.

[dazzleman]

So does Howard Dean hate America?

I'd say he's hostile to the values that a majority of Americans believe in.  He's not really an America-hater per se, but he's sort of a "fellow traveler" if you know what I mean.

[dazzleman]

No. Not at all. Its just an attempt by your enemies to silence you.

Not always.  Sometimes it actually is the case.

[dazzleman]

There's not much difference betwee him and Kerry, or Kerry or him and the average MoveOn supporter.

Well, Kerry voted for the Iraq war, and was calling for action against Iraq since 1997.  That sounds like a major difference to me.  I guess it was OK to take those positions as long as a Democrat was in the White House, but now it isn't.  The anti-war position just wasn't "cool" or "hip" back then, as Janeanne Garafolo said.

[dazzleman]

Oh, so it's simply being against the Iraq invasion that makes someone anti-American. I guess Ron Paul hates America than.

BRTD, this is another example of your deficient reasoning capability.  In response to your comment, I was simply pointing out a difference between the moveon.org freaks and Kerry.  I'm sure there are others.

[dazzleman]

Dazzleman's reasoning is seriously flawed. I've grown pretty sick of hearing that liberals hate America from the last few years. It's sad that the Republicans have no record to run on, and instead must blame liberals for all problems.

Where have you been?  It's been the last 35 years.

[dazzleman]

Dazzleman's reasoning is seriously flawed. I've grown pretty sick of hearing that liberals hate America from the last few years. It's sad that the Republicans have no record to run on, and instead must blame liberals for all problems.

Where have you been?  It's been the last 35 years.

Well, whatever. It's sad that you Republicans are still blaming liberals for everything, even now that you Republicans have run the country into the ground.

It's called politics.  You just said that Republicans have run the country into the ground.  Is that not blaming?  There have been many bad effects to some liberal policies, and conservatives have capitalized on that.  Just as liberals will capitalize on conservative mistakes.  Stop playing the victim.

[dazzleman]

Remind me why anyone supports him?

Because they're repelled by people like you, who overplay your hand in blaming him for things that would have happened anyway, or whose causes were set in motion or ignored by predecessors.  Your view of things is seriously skewed.

[dazzleman]

Remind me why anyone supports him?

Because they're repelled by people like you, who overplay your hand in blaming him for things that would have happened anyway.

So, um, you support the people who have controlled the entire federal government for the last 5 years because of some poster on an Internet forum?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!  You're so clever. 

People like you represent Bush's most vocal opposition.  They are the people who re-elected Bush.  Take a bow for helping re-elect the president.