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Question: If a married woman wants an abortion, should she need her husband's consent? (see below)
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Yes
 
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Yes, and she should need the father's consent even if she is unmarried
 
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No
 
#4
Abortion should be illegal anyway
 
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other (please explain)
 
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« on: October 23, 2005, 02:37:23 PM »

*Assume that this is not a rape, incest, life (or health) of the mother case.

I vote 'no'. It is up to the woman to make the decision since it's her body.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2005, 02:41:02 PM »

No, for the reason nclib stated.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2005, 02:45:13 PM »

Definitely yes, it’s partly his.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2005, 02:46:07 PM »

This is a difficult area to legislate.

I think honestly that women who push the "it's my body" philosophy have shot themselves in the foot.

First of all, it's not the woman's body.  It is a fetus' body that is being destroyed, not the woman's body.  And the fetus was created by both a man and a woman.

I think that both the father and mother should have equal rights and responsibilities when it comes to their offspring.  Parenting is more about responsibilities than rights, but the two are closely linked.  And women who have sought to run roughshod over the rights of the men who have fathered their children have brought ever more responsibility for childrearing upon themselves.

Right now, we have more women bearing sole responsibility for childrearing, including financial support, than at any time in our history.  In certain segments of society, women are the primary and sometimes only financial support for a majority of children.

The results of this situation have been disastrous.  Children growing up without the support of their fathers, either financial or emotional, are disadvantaged in every area, even if they are not financially poor.

And women who bear sole responsibility, including financial, for raising their children are generally exhausted and overstressed.  And they know they can't properly do the job alone in most cases.

There is a strong link between the "it's my body" attitude and the situation I am describing.  We need to get back to dual rights/responsibilities instead of obsessing over rights while ignoring responsibilities.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2005, 02:54:57 PM »

I voted Other because that option makes no sense.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2005, 03:07:21 PM »


Agreed.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2005, 03:18:13 PM »

No, but it's an extremely good idea for the woman to talk about it with the father if she's considering it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2005, 04:17:30 PM »

No, but it's an extremely good idea for the woman to talk about it with the father if she's considering it.

Agreed.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2005, 04:49:02 PM »

No, but it's an extremely good idea for the woman to talk about it with the father if she's considering it.

Agreed.

What they said.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2005, 04:55:16 PM »

She should have to clear it with the father and if they can't find him, then she can carry it to term.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2005, 05:11:35 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2005, 05:53:32 PM »

Of course not. Its not his body.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2005, 05:54:57 PM »

She should have to clear it with the father and if they can't find him, then she can carry it to term.

What if she claims that the child was conceived in a one night stand with a man whose name she does not know and has no contact with.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2005, 05:55:48 PM »


"It" isn't her's either
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2005, 06:13:55 PM »

She should have to clear it with the father and if they can't find him, then she can carry it to term.

What if she claims that the child was conceived in a one night stand with a man whose name she does not know and has no contact with.

She's SOL then.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2005, 07:38:38 PM »

She should have to clear it with the father and if they can't find him, then she can carry it to term.

What if she claims that the child was conceived in a one night stand with a man whose name she does not know and has no contact with.

This thread is talking about spousal consent; that would mean her husband, not just the father of the child.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2005, 07:57:59 PM »

She should have to clear it with the father and if they can't find him, then she can carry it to term.

What if she claims that the child was conceived in a one night stand with a man whose name she does not know and has no contact with.

This thread is talking about spousal consent; that would mean her husband, not just the father of the child.

What right does the husband have to help determine the fate of this child if he is not its father? He should certainly be able to sue her for divorce, but thats a totally different matter.

And if he is the father and there is father's consent, a desperate mother could just make the claim I do above, thus completely bypassing father's consent and rendering the law toothless.
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2005, 08:34:34 PM »

Indeed.  A individual person because of a different genetic code.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2005, 02:36:33 PM »

Other: Consent no, after consultation yes (only if married) If not married, then a strong no.
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