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[afleitch]

So 'god' wants them dead and you merely wish to refrain from 'condoning' them?

No, I witness to them in the hope that I may save some.  For God does not rejoice in the destruction of sinners.

Save me from what? Myself?

[afleitch]

Apparently jmfcst's version of the bible tells him to leave the log in his own eye alone and to go out on a witch hunt for the specks in the eyes of others.

I'm surprised he doesn't refer to himself as his holiness.

Of course, a more accurate id for himself would be 'false witness'.

I agree. He should stop using a Holy Book to back up his own bigotry.

[KEmperor]

So 'god' wants them dead and you merely wish to refrain from 'condoning' them?

No, I witness to them in the hope that I may save some.  For God does not rejoice in the destruction of sinners.

Save me from what? Myself?

Well I think it's quite clear that he is trying to save you money on car insurance.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

The problem is that you just use the Bible for your own personal gain. You have no respect or care for whats in it, as long as you profit 9not necessarily monetarily) from it. This is nothing more than disrespecting The Bible and therefore God and Jesus Christ, something I refuse to do and hate to see others do.

Profit?  Trust me, I find it quite maddening to continually refute illogical Christians as yourself, who turn the grace of God into a license for lasciviousness.

[A18]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

[opebo]

So 'god' wants them dead and you merely wish to refrain from 'condoning' them?

No, I witness to them in the hope that I may save some.  For God does not rejoice in the destruction of sinners.

Yes, I know 'he' does whatever your fevered imagination says he does, but I was looking for consistency within your fantasy.  You said that he 'wants them dead', and now you're saying otherwise..  look if you want others to play Candyland with you, at least make up some consistent rules eh?

[KEmperor]

Silly Christians, your morality of hatred and sacrifice are going to get you in trouble one of these days.

[opebo]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

That is not a problem, A18, because the bible is nothing more than mindless assertion, backed up by nothing itself.

[opebo]

Silly Christians, your morality of hatred and sacrifice are going to get you in trouble one of these days.

Are you thinking of lions as well, KEmperor?

[Speed of Sound]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

I only need one quote: "Love Thy Neighbor As Thy Self" Leviticus 19:18

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Profit?  Trust me, I find it quite maddening to continually refute illogical Christians as yourself, who turn the grace of God into a license for lasciviousness.

You are the one using God as a license for hate.

[A18]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

That is not a problem, A18, because the bible is nothing more than mindless assertion, backed up by nothing itself.

We are debating what the Bible says, not what it's worth.

[afleitch]

There is no definitive interpretation of the teachings of Jesus Christ, period. I have mine, you have yours and I'm still a good Catholic regardless.

[Speed of Sound]

Profit?  Trust me, I find it quite maddening to continually refute illogical Christians as yourself, who turn the grace of God into a license for lasciviousness.

You are the one using God as a license for hate.

Htmldon, you are completely and totally right.

[opebo]

Christians as yourself, who turn the grace of God

No such thing, prude.  You all made it up.

into a license for lasciviousness.

There is no need for any such 'license' - your disapproval is nothing more than subjective dislike.

[A18]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

Actually the problem is that he is mindlessly (and self righteously) quoting without backing up anything he says with any logic whatsoever, and ignoring everything in the Bible that doesn't fit into his hateful bigoted nasty agenda. He is what Jesus referred to as a 'hypocrite'.

You are not citing any biblical material. He's the only one doing so, and you're just whining that it's 'bigotry,' a meaningless label that has no value at all.

[Speed of Sound]

There is no definitive interpretation of the teachings of Jesus Christ, period. I have mine, you have yours and I'm still a good Catholic regardless.

NO!!!! There is only one interpretation: THIERS!

[opebo]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

That is not a problem, A18, because the bible is nothing more than mindless assertion, backed up by nothing itself.

We are debating what the Bible says, not what it's worth.

You are?  Why waste your time debating what is in a worthless old document?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I agree. He should stop using a Holy Book to back up his own bigotry.

(my apologies to those who have read the following canned response a thousand times)

I believe that lying is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards liars?  Do you believe I hate liars?

I believe that fornication is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards fornicators?  Do you believe I hate fornicators?

I believe that stealing is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards thieves?  Do you believe I hate thieves?

I believe that adultery is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards adulterers?  Do you believe I hate adulterers?

I believe that getting drunk is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards those who get drunk?  Do you believe I hate those who get drunk?

…I believe that sinzyz is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards those who practice sinxyz?  Do you believe I hate those who practice sinxyz?

[afleitch]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

Actually the problem is that he is mindlessly (and self righteously) quoting without backing up anything he says with any logic whatsoever, and ignoring everything in the Bible that doesn't fit into his hateful bigoted nasty agenda. He is what Jesus referred to as a 'hypocrite'.

You are not citing any biblical material. He's the only one doing so, and you're just whining that it's 'bigotry,' a meaningless label that has no value at all.

Read the bible verse on SpeedofSounds profile.

[A18]

There is no definitive interpretation of the teachings of Jesus Christ, period. I have mine, you have yours and I'm still a good Catholic regardless.

Either there is a correct interpretation, in which case it can be debated, or this entire conversation is useless, and your earlier assertions that he was misconstruing the Bible are bunk.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

We are debating what the Bible says, not what it's worth.

We're not debating what every little mis-interpreted sentence re-translated 6 times says.  We're debating what Jesus would have us do.

[opebo]

We are debating what the Bible says, not what it's worth.

We're not debating what every little mis-interpreted sentence re-translated 6 times says.  We're debating what Jesus would have us do.

Well, I'm not.  I'm saying that anyone who would even consider such a question is a madman.  jmfcst is the perfect example. 

[Speed of Sound]

The problem with this 'discussion' is that jmfcst is actually backing up what he says with biblical material, whereas other people are just mindless dismissing it without argument.

Actually the problem is that he is mindlessly (and self righteously) quoting without backing up anything he says with any logic whatsoever, and ignoring everything in the Bible that doesn't fit into his hateful bigoted nasty agenda. He is what Jesus referred to as a 'hypocrite'.

You are not citing any biblical material. He's the only one doing so, and you're just whining that it's 'bigotry,' a meaningless label that has no value at all.

Read the bible verse on SpeedofSounds profile.

SSHHHH!! That is the one quote that youre NOT supposed to know! :X

[afleitch]

We are debating what the Bible says, not what it's worth.

We're not debating what every little mis-interpreted sentence re-translated 6 times says.  We're debating what Jesus would have us do.

And I believe Jesus would want us to confront poverty, liberate the opressed and fight for human rights, not have a kick at homosexuals.