Budget

[The Dowager Mod]

I move that the CHAINSAW BUDGET SAVINGS BILLS be brought up for debate immediately.

[DanielX]

I move that the CHAINSAW BUDGET SAVINGS BILLS be brought up for debate immediately.

I second.

[Emsworth]

If I remember correctly from the previous budget discussion, the individual proposals could just be brought up without a special Senate vote.

[The Dowager Mod]

1. The Elimination of Medicaid Act :
a. Over the next eight months (RL years), the budget for federal budget for Medicaid shall be cut by 12.5%.
b. All acts pertaining to the Medicaid program are to be repealed at the end of this program.
c. $200 million per budget cycle shall be dedicated to assisting the the states in providing their own programs, should they choose to do so.

2. The Department of Education Budget Reduction Act

a. The Federal Department of Education shall have its budget slashed by 90%, starting this cycle. State aid to education shall also be slashed 90%.
b. The Treasury Department will determine how these cuts are enacted.

3.   The Elimination of the Department of Commerce Act

a. The Department of Commerce is hereby eliminated.
b. Any laws relating to the Department of Commerce are repealed.

4. The Elimination of the Department of Housing and Urban Development Act

a. The Department of Housing and Urban Development is hereby eliminated.
b. Any laws relating to the Department of Housing and Urban Development are repealed.

5. Department of Defense Budget Reduction Act

 All non-emergency spending initiatives in the Department of Defense shall have their budgets reduced by 5%.

6. Office of Personell Management Budget Reduction Act

The budget of the Office of Personnel Management shall be slashed 15%.

7.   Department of Agriculture Budget Reduction Act
The budget of the Department of Agriculture shall be slashed 75%.

8. Environmental Protection Agency Budget Reduction Act
The budget of the Environmental Protection Agency shall be slashed 50%.

9. NASA Auction Act
a. the Federal Government shall offer the civilian portion of the National Aeronautics and Space Agency for auction to bidding individuals, foundations, and corporations in the United States.
b. if NASA as a whole is to be placed on auction, the starting bid shall be $10 billion; if it is to be auctioned piece-by-piece, the combined total of starting bids shall be $10 billion.
 
10. Department of Labor Budget Reduction Act
The budget for the Department of Labor shall be slashed 50%.

[The Dowager Mod]

However we do it we need to get moving.
If you guys want to do those individualy just say so.

[Joe Republic]

I tentatively agree with this motion.  But first, would Sam be able to provide some estimates for how this would affect the deficit, please?  I realize it'd be very tedious, but we'd appreciate the help.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I guess we should do it individually.

[The Dowager Mod]

I guess we should do it individually.

Well you da man what first?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I guess we should do it individually.

Well you da man what first?

I'm tired and need some sleep now... I'll post a couple of other ideas (in addition to this, some is acceptable some looks dodgy) in the morning or whenever I'm back online

[Defarge]

Gotta debate a bit first TG

[The Dowager Mod]

Gotta debate a bit first TG

We can do that on each item.

[Platypus]

this bill is awful.

[Jake]

this bill is awful.

I agree. The only part I can support is the cuts to the OPM.

[CheeseWhiz]

this bill is awful.

Well, do you have any better ideas?

IMO, this is a really great bill

[Jake]

Raising taxes along with targeted reforms is the only way to actually balance a budget. When we have to pretty much gut social services just to cut the deficit by 250 billion dollars, it's not worth it, at all.

[12th Doctor]

Wow... this bill is robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Sure, we might save some money in the short term, but at the price of causing a massive depression that is only going to sink us further into the hole.

People, we need something better than this.

[12th Doctor]

BTW, I bet this is all a joyous suprise for the Ayn Randers, assume they were anticipating it all along.

[The Dowager Mod]

As soon as i see a better alternative which includes a 15% defense cut i'm all for it.

[12th Doctor]

BTW, here is what we propose at Treasury as part of the solution:


The minting of the 1 cent coin will cease until the next fiscal year, thus saving the Federal Government $9,396,000/month (RWT).  

200,000 penny's will be minted for collector's sets, but no penny will be minted for circulation.

Also, we will cease minting the Half-Dollar on the same guide lines.  This will save the Federal Government about $400,000.

We will also cut in half, the production of Nickles ($2 million) and Dimes ($3.2 million).

It's something, at least.  Of course, the effects this generates on the economy (we are talking tight money here) and the fact that all the employees that we let go as a result of this (which will save us more money than the coin reduction, probably) will mean that there will be more joblessness and more demand on social programs and the economy, and result in making my the most unpopular Treasury Secretary in history, but whatever it takes, I suppose.

If we do this, we are pulling about $1 billion dollars in real money out of the economy.

[12th Doctor]

Also, the Departments of Commerce and Labor can be folded into Treasury, with a 50% staff cut in each department.  My staff can handle the rest.

We'll take Agriculture too, again, with a 50% staff reduction.

This should save money on redundency, as well.

I would further recommend a 50% reduction in Congressional Staff, accross the board.

And, I'll take Housing and Urban Development into Treasury, too.  Except with a 60% reduction of staff.

[12th Doctor]

Also, we never did a round of Military Base closings here in Atlasia.  I would recommend that as well.

[Bono]

Wow... this bill is robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Sure, we might save some money in the short term, but at the price of causing a massive depression that is only going to sink us further into the hole.

People, we need something better than this.

I think you are confused, no one here is increasing taxes.

[Bono]

BTW, here is what we propose at Treasury as part of the solution:


The minting of the 1 cent coin will cease until the next fiscal year, thus saving the Federal Government $9,396,000/month (RWT). 

200,000 penny's will be minted for collector's sets, but no penny will be minted for circulation.

Also, we will cease minting the Half-Dollar on the same guide lines.  This will save the Federal Government about $400,000.

We will also cut in half, the production of Nickles ($2 million) and Dimes ($3.2 million).

It's something, at least.  Of course, the effects this generates on the economy (we are talking tight money here) and the fact that all the employees that we let go as a result of this (which will save us more money than the coin reduction, probably) will mean that there will be more joblessness and more demand on social programs and the economy, and result in making my the most unpopular Treasury Secretary in history, but whatever it takes, I suppose.

If we do this, we are pulling about $1 billion dollars in real money out of the economy.

Good idea, but first we sould end wage floors.

[12th Doctor]

BTW, here is what we propose at Treasury as part of the solution:


The minting of the 1 cent coin will cease until the next fiscal year, thus saving the Federal Government $9,396,000/month (RWT). 

200,000 penny's will be minted for collector's sets, but no penny will be minted for circulation.

Also, we will cease minting the Half-Dollar on the same guide lines.  This will save the Federal Government about $400,000.

We will also cut in half, the production of Nickles ($2 million) and Dimes ($3.2 million).

It's something, at least.  Of course, the effects this generates on the economy (we are talking tight money here) and the fact that all the employees that we let go as a result of this (which will save us more money than the coin reduction, probably) will mean that there will be more joblessness and more demand on social programs and the economy, and result in making my the most unpopular Treasury Secretary in history, but whatever it takes, I suppose.

If we do this, we are pulling about $1 billion dollars in real money out of the economy.

Good idea, but first we sould end wage floors.

Well, since the social Darwinists already accomplished that, I don't know what you are complaining about.

Unless, of course, the arguments about regional rights were all a sham, and your real goal is to create a sweatshop nation.  Who could possibly have predicted that?

[Emsworth]

Supersoulty, what do you feel about privatizing the Tennessee Valley Authority and the various federal Power Marketing Administrations? That should raise at least $50 billion.