Second Vote to Waive Budget Requirement

[Defarge]

The Senate hereby waives the requirement to approve the Budget before considering any bill or constitutional amendment.

Voting is now open.  A two thirds majority is required for passage.

Distinguished Senators, I strongly urge passage.

[Joe Republic]

Okay, I've had a big change of heart on this.  I also urge the Senate to pass this motion.

[Gabu]

Aye.

[Jake]

Aye

[The Dowager Mod]

Aye

[DanielX]

Nay

[Ebowed]

Nay

[Platypus]

a tentative Aye

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Aye

[MasterJedi]

Aye

[Defarge]

A question for Atlasia's legal minds.

The Constitution reads thus;

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Does that mean that 2/3rds of the total senate must vote in favor of waiving the requirement, or 2/3rds of the number of senators voting must vote in favor?

[Brandon H]

A question for Atlasia's legal minds.

The Constitution reads thus;

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Does that mean that 2/3rds of the total senate must vote in favor of waiving the requirement, or 2/3rds of the number of senators voting must vote in favor?

Given the text says "two-thirds of its number" I would take that to mean two thirds of all Senators. Had it said by a two-thirds vote, then I would take that two mean only of the voting members. However, I think we should ask whoever wrote the thing.

[Emsworth]

Given the text says "two-thirds of its number" I would take that to mean two thirds of all Senators. Had it said by a two-thirds vote, then I would take that two mean only of the voting members. However, I think we should ask whoever wrote the thing.

You are correct; it is supposed to refer to two-thirds of the whole Senate, not just two-thirds of those voting.

[PBrunsel]

Aye

I read everyone's arguments, I am just not in a debating mood this week.

[Platypus]

7-2 passage.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

With 7 Ayes to 2 Nays, this motion has passed by the required majority. Senators have 24 (it is 24 right?) hours to change their votes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The requirement to proceed with the Budget is waived

*bangs gavel*

[MasterJedi]

So can we get going with other stuff and it doesn't say we can't deal with the budget at the same time as well.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So can we get going with other stuff and it doesn't say we can't deal with the budget at the same time as well.

Pretty much. We need to try to get that ammendment to the budget thingy sorted though.
Basically, we're back to normal legislative stuff.

[Gabu]

So can we get going with other stuff and it doesn't say we can't deal with the budget at the same time as well.

Yes, it basically means that we can hold the vote on the budget whenever we feel we're good and ready, instead of having to do it as soon as possible, regardless of the consequences.

[Sam Spade]

So, here's the way you can probably expect the markets will play out on the final budget.  As long as the budget is completed and passed before the end of the year, you can probably expect little angst from the market on the matter, unless they think you're not interested in doing it (at some point).

If it's not done and passed going into the next year, market anxiety will continue to grow stronger and stronger until it is done and you can expect some negative impact.

As for the budgetary constraints, I know there is mood and interest in repealing them.  I cannot tell you, nor will I, what aftereffects this will have on the market, whether good or bad.

Be assured though, that I have a few scenarios in mind and will randomly pick from one of them, as I do for most events where there is not a clear answer as to what will happen.  (it's the way I do GMing)