Allyson Schwartz

[Keystone Phil]

The election clearly was stolen and Melissa Brown is their actual representative.

God bless you for finally accepting this.

*gag*

Tell me about it.

[Keystone Phil]

Let me make a comparison here. Dennis O'Brien's position on choice PA 13-wide would be equivalent to that of me representing your PA House district in terms of being "out of step".  There is a formidable pro-choice population in PA 169, but I know you guys are in the majority there.  Same goes for PA 13 Congressional, but the other way around. 

You are way more out of step in PA 169 than O'Brien would be in PA 13 when it comes to abortion.

[Keystone Phil]

Let me make a comparison here. Dennis O'Brien's position on choice PA 13-wide would be equivalent to that of me representing your PA House district in terms of being "out of step".  There is a formidable pro-choice population in PA 169, but I know you guys are in the majority there.  Same goes for PA 13 Congressional, but the other way around. 

You are way more out of step in PA 169 than O'Brien would be in PA 13 when it comes to abortion.

Did you read my whole post?  There are pro-choice Catholics in PA 169, though not the majority.  Your pro-lifers are more vocal there and pro-choicers are generally sheepish and moderate about it I'll admit.

There is no underground Pro Choice community that is just waiting to rise up. Whether they're vocal or not, they're still in the clear minority and you are still out of step even with them.

[Keystone Phil]

I simply advocate the most humane method possible given a set of cicrumstances 

Humane? That's amusing.

[Keystone Phil]

Okay, maybe your partisan glasses are too tinted. PA 13 is not nearly as pro-choice as you are making it out to be. And guess what, I never said being out of line with the district was good or bad - in fact, I said that I am out of line with the district. Further, what does Representative O'Brien have to do with anything?! Did anyone ever say his stance on murder of babies with beating hearts was in line with 13? I didnt. You brought it up for whatever reason... i dont know why.

I was simply making a comparison with regards to O'Brien and yes I have checked his voting record on the issue.  Can't say I agree with it, but anyway...  On that note I am out of line with PA 13 on many of my social views, but then again they may simply be youth and I have never raised a family, so that may change (or so u hope ).  I also can't stand how dramatic some of you pro-lifers are on abortion.  I'm not trying to be PC here, but I have reasons for being pro-CHOICE.  This does not mean I openly advocate "baby murder" or some sick twisted right wing thing you may concoct.  I simply advocate the most humane method possible given a set of cicrumstances beyond my control and feel the woman herself has the power to make that decision.   

would you like to know why we get so dramatic? becuase it is MURDER of innocent babies! Its that easy. and the fact that you pro-murder of innocent baby folks do not see that really makes us sick. In many cases, it STOPS A BEATING HEART! It also physically hurts the baby... watch an ultrasound of a baby when an abortion is taking place... as soon as the "tools" make contact with the baby, the babies mouth opens... thats called a SCREAM FOR HELP. the silent scream. you sick pigs who take this lightly and say I am being dramatic can all go to hell because I am right.  Does this make me a crazy conservative as you are likely to make me out to be? I dont know but IF it does I will sure be proud of that title because of the "silent scream." Ya see, we pro-lifers work in reality and we hear the silent scream. Liberals dont see it so chose to ignore it. Pathetic!!!!

You didn't see where he basically encouraged women to get abortions so he can have a relationship with them...(no lie)

[Keystone Phil]

You didn't see where he basically encouraged women to get abortions so he can have a relationship with them...(no lie)

Thats quite sick

Sex without guilt or baggage is a wonderful thing!  BOOYEAH!

Thank God you'll never have a chance to reproduce.

[Keystone Phil]

How do you know?  I might have already did.....

God help us.

[Keystone Phil]

Sex without guilt or baggage is a wonderful thing!  BOOYEAH!

How can you not feel guilty about someone aborting a child after you suggested it?

[Keystone Phil]

Nah, I just wanted to rile you up! 

You have to work on better excuses, my friend.

[Keystone Phil]

I'd also like to ask Phil and DMK, if the district is so pro-life, why were 98% of the votes cast in this race (and 70% or so in the Republican primary) for a candidate who supports abortion rights?

I don't believe that PA 13 is a Pro Life district but it's not as extremely Pro Choice as Flyers wants people to believe.

[Keystone Phil]

If you want to make me be your personal enemy, great!  Yeah, I'm sorry I went to 12 years of Catholic school, live in Northeast Philly and disagree with you on a woman's right to choose.  Some of us don't take what we've learned in Catholic school and look at the issue with blinders on when we reexamine the issues later in life.  Of course I did the pro-life rose selling thing in grade school when I was about 8 or 9 and thought abortion was baby killing and it was awful.  I then asked myself the simple question of WHY someone would do that.  When you live a comfortable life, you really have no clue as to the factors that may lead someone to arrive at the decision to terminate her pregnancy.  I also remember the GOP slanted literature handed to my family the Sunday before every election basically priaising the GOP candidate and making the Dem look like trash.  What are you trying to prove with me?  What more do you want me to say regarding the sarcastic, yet meant to be facetious comment I made? 

So because we have Pro Life beliefs that means we have not examined our position and we're dumb? This wasn't even about you being Pro Choice. This is about your digusting "Oh well I don't care if they get an abortion! As long as it means some ass for me!" comments. Abortion is still a horrible procedure, whether you are Pro Life or Pro Choice.

What you also FAIL to realize is that the Church holds conservative positions on most of these issues so when you see conservative literature being handed out, accept the fact that this is what we, as Catholics, believe. Get over it.

You're an obnoxious slimeball. I wouldn't call you that if you presented your views respectfully but you're the trash that you post warrants that response.

[Keystone Phil]

Well, I have a lot of respect for you too and I think you definitely have a future in politics.  I might have got a little hot and bothered when you called me a "pig" and maybe I should have reacted differently and addressed why I am truly pro-choice instead of some bonehead rant and I'm sorry.  Hopefully we can look past that. 

I'm also glad you admit your inconsistencies of your personal beliefs with the Catholic church's regarding the death penalty.  Too often people think they're holier than thou because they are "pro-life" and also favor the death penalty.  The one thing that bothers me is that position is omitted from pre-election literature after Sunday Mass is the death penalty.  It's all abortion, abortion, abortion and maaaaybe vouchers. 

Well, no one likes to admit they abort for incovenience, but the fact of the matter is that's the case in over 50% of abortions.  Look, I take socioeconomic factors into consideration when evaluating my position on choice.  More times than none, a woman will decide to keep her baby.  She will have the guilt of having something ripped from her, but that is for her to deal with, not a judge, clergy member, or legislator.     

Yet I do the same thing and you go into one of your hyper-partisan rants. I have stated my differences with the Church and it's always "You're brainwashed!"

You want to disagree? Fine. Just do it more respectfully when you're dealing with me and others and maybe we won't always be personally attacking each other.

[Keystone Phil]

Do you have to be so rigid towards people that don't agree with you?  I realize I'm not the most couth person in the world and I tend to slip and lot of stupid things, but unlike DMK, you have a lot of issues to deal with yourself if you were to enter politics.

Uh, you go on one of your crazy rants and you expect me to just treat you equally? I'm tired of this "You don't like people that disagree with you." I can prove that wrong in so many different ways. I call you a slimeball and you get mad. DMK calls you a pig and it's ok. You're deal is that you're afraid of someone here. You either kiss up to him because you're afraid or attack me because you're afraid. You're totally inconsistent.

  

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I defend Naso and NixonNow because they are unfairly accused of stuff. It's not partisanship. I don't defend people like yourself because you openly don't care about what you say and you mean what people think you mean.

I start personal stuff when people get personal with me. When you go into one of your drunken "You're brainwashed. GOODBYE GERLACH, FITZPATRICK, WELDON!" stuff, I attack back.

I wouldn't call for you to be banned. Shows how much you know.

[Keystone Phil]

Each student in my Gov class has to pick one member of the House, analyze their last ten votes, give a reason for each of their votes and a description of the district.

I picked my least favorite member - Bernie Sanders of Vermont (I get to describe Vermont. What fun!). My liberal girlfriend wanted me to pick someone for her so I chose Pete Sessions of Texas. Those that are different from us are always the most fun to analyze.