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1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Jackson/Ford
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bgwah
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1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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November 26, 2005, 06:49:42 pm »
Senator Henry Jackson wins the Democratic primaries and challenges Gerald Ford in the general election.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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November 27, 2005, 06:43:00 am »
Quite frankly, Jackson walked on water, at least in Washington. He received 82% of the vote in his first election, against a viable Republican. He continued to win landslides up until his final 69% victory in 1982. Jackson never, in any of his elections, lost any of Washington's 39 counties. The most conservative counties gave him some of his largest margins of victory, in fact.
I have a lot of respect for him, and he certainly would have received my vote - and probably would have totally dispatched Ford.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Jackson was exceptional. Who would be the running mates?
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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November 27, 2005, 10:29:36 am »
I'd vote for Ford, although he'd probably lose.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Tough decision, but Jackson/Jackson.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Quote from: SoS True Independent on November 27, 2005, 11:45:53 am
Tough decision, but Jackson/Jackson.
I echo that.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Ford/Jackson
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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November 27, 2005, 04:48:36 pm »
Ford/Jackson
As Alcon says...he was an incredible candidate.
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A big win for Jackson
Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson WA/Senator Lawton Chiles FL 415
President Gerald Ford MI/Senator Bob Dole KS 123
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Jackson in a heart beat.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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December 08, 2005, 09:33:21 pm »
Jackson 366
Ford 172
Jackson runs about even with Carter in the South, even increased margins in some areas because of Hawkish stance on foreign policy, swing Virginia. He then also brings to the Democratic column the very close states of Iowa, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, and South Dakota.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on December 08, 2005, 09:33:21 pm
Jackson 366
Ford 172
Jackson runs about even with Carter in the South, even increased margins in some areas because of Hawkish stance on foreign policy, swing Virginia. He then also brings to the Democratic column the very close states of Iowa, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, and South Dakota.
I think most of you are overestimating Jackson's support in the South. He
might
a few states like Arkansas, Georgia, and Texas, but otherwise not many. Look at 1972. It was not just McGovern's fault that he lost the South so badly. It was because National Democrats were viewed unfavorably. Carter won the South by such a large margin because was a "Southerner and an American and in that order."
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Jackson/Jackson
He mightave taken Indiana actually; the state is very blue collar and at the time had one of the highest Union densities in the country (deindustrialisation hath since weakend this markedly). Possibly Michigan as well; the same factors apply and Ford only beat Carter there by 5pts.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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jackson wins 441 to 97, perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic? I wasn't sure how well he would do in the South or the Northeast. I know I'm pushing it with Alaska but oh well.
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Quote from: Jesus on December 10, 2005, 07:43:45 pm
jackson wins 441 to 97, perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic? I wasn't sure how well he would do in the South or the Northeast. I know I'm pushing it with Alaska but oh well.
That's better.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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His southern support is over-estimated.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Ford. I would never vote for that imperalistic warmonger Jackson.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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December 10, 2005, 10:10:04 pm »
Jackson wasn't exactly a national democrat as we would classify it now. He was certainly of the populist-leaning oldstyle democrat mold, and his hawkish stances would also garner support for him in the South. Don't forget this is against Ford, who did well in suburban areas but collapsed in rural areas (especially Southern) and many cities. I see no reason why the South, which parts of went for landslides for Carter, would swing all the way to Ford.
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Was Jackson a hawkish Carter?
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Scoop/Scoop
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Ford/Ford.
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Re: 1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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Jackson/Jackson.
Although I don't think Scoop would've ran away with it, I belive he would've won easier than Carter did.
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