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WalterMitty
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E: 1.68, S: -2.26

« on: November 28, 2005, 04:09:16 PM »

So of the three Democrats, you'd support the only one who is currently losing?  Way to go. Wink

Was that a joke?

Anyway, Patrick is by far the least known candidate and I have no problem with supporting him.  He is a progressive, reform-minded Democrat.

patrick has a horrible organization.  i dont think he will be much of a factor in the primary.

patrick has also upset some of the libs by being an outspoken supporter of one president bush's controversial ambassador nominees....i cant remember the name right off.

reilly is a boring candidate, who has a squishy position (to say the least) on gay marriage.

rommey can and would beat any of the three mentioned candidates in the poll.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 04:32:25 PM »

Not really.  You posted a thread containing three polls; two showing Romney losing.  You declared your support for the only one that Romney is beating.

Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, Patrick is by far the least known of the candidates.

is patrick really qualified to be governor?

he was a rather low ranking lawyer in the clinton justice department.

maybe he should try for lt. gov or a state legislature seat before running for governor?
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 11:08:32 PM »

Who is Gavin?  I don't remember hearing of him.

mass sec of state
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2005, 02:42:18 PM »

I'd like to see a Democrat take the Governership but with significantly more Republicans in the state legislature. Too much one party dominance can be a bad thing

Dave

i doubt you will see any pickups for the republicans in the state house.

the gop is pretty uncompetitive in state house races over most of the state.

they field competitive candidates on the cape.  that is about it.
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WalterMitty
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E: 1.68, S: -2.26

« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 09:34:07 AM »

I'd like to see a Democrat take the Governership but with significantly more Republicans in the state legislature. Too much one party dominance can be a bad thing

Dave

I agree with you, but until marriage rights are firmly established, the legislature must stay strongly Democrat. I'd prefer that a REAL moderate Republican become Governor. Whatever happened to Patrick Guerrero, Swift's Lieutenant Gov.? Or maybe Weld should run here instead of New York, where the polls show he is unknown and unpopular. I liked Weld.

i follow the mass state legislature pretty closely and i must say there is a pretty distinct conservative/liberal split (particularly on social issues) among the democrats.

it kind of reminds me of the old south in a lot of ways with the conservate-liberal democrat split.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 03:08:11 PM »


i follow the mass state legislature pretty closely and i must say there is a pretty distinct conservative/liberal split (particularly on social issues) among the democrats.


Would you say that split was along religious lines? Massachussetts Protestants (31% of voters) supported Kerry (60-39) but Catholics (43% of voters) only broke (51-49) for Kerry. Jews and the non-religious broke heavily for Kerry

Dave

yes it is most certainly a religious split.  from what i can tell, most of the conservative dems in the mass legislature are devout catholics and represent primarily blue collar areas.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 09:34:56 AM »

reilly had a very bad week.

i dont think he has what it takes to get elected.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2006, 11:04:42 PM »

did anyone else notice how poorly reilly did in the local democrat conventions across mass on saturday.  deval patrick received more delegates than reilly...by a 2-1 margin.

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WalterMitty
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2006, 11:13:48 PM »

did anyone else notice how poorly reilly did in the local democrat conventions across mass on saturday.  deval patrick received more delegates than reilly...by a 2-1 margin.

Patrick is a candidate who gets people excited while Reilly is a status quo type machine Democrat. I think Deval Patrick has a good chance to be the next governor of Massachusetts.

you should temper your excitment, scoonie.

while reilly, twice elected to statewide office, lost to a political novice over the weekend, you sould keep two important points in mind:

1.  deval patrick is certianly more popular with the liberal activists (ie the people who actually go to local conventions on a saturday).  reilly's base is with blue collars (ie people who have lives.)

2. reilly had a *horrible* week.  his selection of a running mate proved to be a disaster.

i still think reilly will win the democrat nomination.

by the way, he is a piss poor candidate, but reilly is one of the more decent people involved in politics.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2006, 02:24:40 PM »

1.  deval patrick is certianly more popular with the liberal activists (ie the people who actually go to local conventions on a saturday).  reilly's base is with blue collars (ie people who have lives.

Deval Patrick is basically an unknown whose popularity is gaining the more people get to know him. Reilly has a huge leg up when it comes to name recognition and experience, but Patrick can make up the gap with his charisma and outsider appeal.

patrick is basically a latte liberal.  will the voters of mass trust him with the democrat legislature?

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WalterMitty
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2006, 03:09:39 PM »

patrick is basically a latte liberal. 

What do you mean by "latte liberal"?? You think a poor kid from the southside of Chicago is a "latte liberal"?

no but i think a corporate lawyer is.

hey did you see the news this past week where it was revealed that patrick had a tax lien placed against him several years ago, despite working for a prestigious boston law firm?
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2006, 03:16:11 PM »


What a frigging retarded comment.

hey did you see the news this past week where it was revealed that patrick had a tax lien placed against him several years ago, despite working for a prestigious boston law firm?

Yes I did. He was paying the IRS on an installment plan and missed a payment or two. He paid all of it back the next year. This won't even be an issue in the race.

i thought you democrats hated corporations?
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