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« on: May 12, 2004, 05:16:58 pm »
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Here in the United States we have many heroes like Thomas Jefferson, Neil Armstrong, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Jr., John and Robert Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and a host of others. But we have one main national hero, George Washington.

Washington is the Father of Our Country, and thus we consider him our national hero.

International posters, who are your nations national heroes?
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2004, 05:07:15 pm »
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Interesting question... I'd say Dag Hammarskjöld, UN Secretary General between 1953 and 1961, when his plane was shot down over Congo. A very spiritual, intelligent man and a true internationalist. Possibly the best UN Secretary General so far. We also have Raoul Wallenberg, a diplomat who saved many thousand Jews during WWII.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2004, 05:20:17 pm »
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Saint George our Patron Saint probably. The English flag is the St. George's Cross. Despite this, nothing much happens on St. George's Day and no one seems to care.....

For the UK as a whole I don't know though
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2004, 05:37:19 pm »
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I think Americans have had the most national heroes of any nation.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2004, 05:56:45 pm »
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I think Americans have had the most national heroes of any nation.

Israel has a large number of heroes, even in their short history.

Golda Meir
David Ben Gurion
Ariel Sharon(I'm not sure about his current status though)
Yitzhak Rabin(hero to the liberals)
Moshe Dayan
Eliezer Ben-Yehuda
Teddy Kollek
Rav Kook

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2004, 05:58:06 pm »
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Don't forget Israel's astronaut who perished.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2004, 06:10:37 pm »
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Saint George our Patron Saint probably. The English flag is the St. George's Cross. Despite this, nothing much happens on St. George's Day and no one seems to care.....

For the UK as a whole I don't know though

You have more than that.  Churchill is one.  I can't remember the names but the chap who beat Napoleon at Walloon in his second resurgence and the fellow who beat the Spanish armada should also be held in high regard.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2004, 06:29:47 pm »
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Saint George our Patron Saint probably. The English flag is the St. George's Cross. Despite this, nothing much happens on St. George's Day and no one seems to care.....

For the UK as a whole I don't know though

You have more than that.  Churchill is one.  I can't remember the names but the chap who beat Napoleon at Walloon in his second resurgence and the fellow who beat the Spanish armada should also be held in high regard.

Lord Nelson, one of my heroes
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2004, 07:38:24 pm »
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Lord Wellington defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. Wellington was a tactical genious.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2004, 07:44:09 pm »
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Every faction is Israel has many national heroes. An Israeli rightwinger would be furious that you list did not include Jabotinsky, Begin, Shamir, Eitam, or either Netanyahu. And Sharansky too. The astronaut's name was Col. Ilan Ramon, he also flew the bombing mission that destroyed the Osirak reactor, which was followed by Begin's famous "Never Again" speech. Kodratos, are you a Sabra?
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Every faction is Israel has many national heroes. An Israeli rightwinger would be furious that you list did not include Jabotinsky, Begin, Shamir, Eitam, or either Netanyahu. And Sharansky too. The astronaut's name was Col. Ilan Ramon, he also flew the bombing mission that destroyed the Osirak reactor, which was followed by Begin's famous "Never Again" speech. Kodratos, are you a Sabra?

No I'm not. I was going to add for comedy's sake Yigal Amir. I can't believe I forgot Ze'ev Jabotinsky though. Begin was cool, but I don't think he is really a "hero". Netanyahu is a personal favorite of mine. I would like to see him replace Sharon.

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2004, 07:55:30 pm »
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Lord Wellington defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. Wellington was a tactical genious.

Waterloo, that was it.  Walloon is a type of Belgian.  Easy to get them confused, heh.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2004, 08:16:00 pm »
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I am Modern Orthdox, I too prefer Bibi to Arik. If Begin were to be viewed as a hero, it would be for his leadership in prewar and wartime Poland, and especially in the Palestine Mandate as leadr of Betar, the Etzel, etc. after the Altalena's death in 1940. (Jabotinsky's pen name, not the boat). Israeli intellectuals love Yigal Yadin. Then there's both Weitzmanns, and of course Toppol (for the sake of comedy, as you put it).
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2004, 12:56:50 am »
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Le Emperor Napoleon!
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2004, 02:11:58 am »
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2004, 03:18:45 am »
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