Do you believe in global warming?

[GOP = Terrorists]

Global Warming?  No.  Climate Change?  Yep.

And my girl and I both drive hybrids and have shrunk our environmental footprints by 75% in the last couple years.

[Schmitz in 1972]

What the global warming goons often forget is that the earth has been both so much more hotter and so much more colder with none or hardly any human presence at all! More recently there was a similar spike in temperature in the early 1000s and we all remember the 'global cooling' panic of the 1970s. Furthermore, over 98% of the present greenhouse gases are not human made but completely natural. I would not be surprised if 50 or so years down the road the scientists are talking about global cooling again and global warming has become the punchline global cooling previously was.

[David S]

My appologies for going off topic but what's up with John Dibble's  line "I'm a Jew Now. aaagh" ?

Refer to this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=32470.0

Have a good laugh.

LOL .Wow. How did I miss that one?

[© tweed]

Of course it's happening.

But by the time it matters, I'll be in hell, so it doesn't much make a difference to me.

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Of course it's happening.

But by the time it matters, I'll be in hell, so it doesn't much make a difference to me.

Perhaps you missed out on this years hurricane season. The Gulf Streams power has been reduced by 30%, that extra heat was stuck in hurricane land.

[Speed of Sound]

Global warming is a grave threat to Earth. Some day not too far in the future, we could be looking at 130 degree summers! ouch.

[Hitchabrut]

Yes, to some extent.

[John Dibble]

Global warming is a grave threat to Earth. Some day not too far in the future, we could be looking at 130 degree summers! ouch.

When the ice caps melt, we'll have an ice age - no worries.

[Hatman 🍁]

Yes (normal)

Although, double-barelled questions are for n00bs! I don't own a "motor car" anyways.

[Max Power]

Global warming is a grave threat to Earth. Some day not too far in the future, we could be looking at 130 degree summers! ouch.

With the temperature as it is outside now, I'd take that.

[MODU]

Global warming is a grave threat to Earth. Some day not too far in the future, we could be looking at 130 degree summers! ouch.

With the temperature as it is outside now, I'd take that.

Are you getting the snow yet?  It's hitting all the counties around me to the west right now, but still no flakes outside my window.

[John Dibble]

Yes, there is evidence to support the earth is warming up. But it is not from anything humans did ,such as drive suv's or pollute. Proof. Imagine there is a Miller Lite  sitting next to a lamp. The delicous beverage will raise it's temperature every minute it's under the lamp. The guys blowing farts out of their asses five feet away have nothing to do with the temperature of the beer being raised, only the heat collecting in the liquid does. The sun has this same effect and the earth will continue to get warmer. For us outdoorsmen this is a good thing.

Your comparison isn't really valid. First off, the beer will only get so hot before it releases heat at a sufficient level to maintain a constant temperature. If the Earth was as simple as your beer/lamp system, it would also maintain a constant temperature - however, throughout history the Earth's temperature has fluctuated between varying degrees of hot and cold. If your logic was correct, it would have only gotten warmer and warmer, and never have fluctuated, as illustrated by this chart.



I'd also like to point out that the sun's luminosity is increasing over time, so once again, by your logic the Earth should be getting warmer and warmer and never decrease in temperature. But if the sun is giving off more energy, and thus more heat, then why has the temperature remained stable? The answer is that the Earth is a hell of a lot more complex than a bottle of beer - it has a changing atmosphere(some changes are natural, such as the cooling effect the gasses spewed from volcanic eruptions tend to have) and a changing surface(albedo, or reflectiveness, is not constant), as well as other factors.

[Hatman 🍁]

Why do Libertarians hate science?

[MODU]

Why do Libertarians hate science?

hahaha . . . they do?  By the looks of it, Dibble is basing an argument with science. 

[John Dibble]

Why do Libertarians hate science?

hahaha . . . they do?  By the looks of it, Dibble is basing an argument with science. 

Indeed - the stuff I stated above came from the Earth and Atmospheric science course I took in the spring. I fail to see how anything in that argument, which was a refutation of a poorly thought out idea with the use of scientific principles, can be construed as Libertarians hating science...unless Earl thinks that the Earth is comparable to a simple beer/lamp system and that the Earth will continue to warm up no matter what.

[MODU]

Why do Libertarians hate science?

hahaha . . . they do?  By the looks of it, Dibble is basing an argument with science. 

Indeed - the stuff I stated above came from the Earth and Atmospheric science course I took in the spring. I fail to see how anything in that argument, which was a refutation of a poorly thought out idea with the use of scientific principles, can be construed as Libertarians hating science...unless Earl thinks that the Earth is comparable to a simple beer/lamp system and that the Earth will continue to warm up no matter what.

Well, sometimes the foam generated by the sea looks like foam from a head of beer. 

[dazzleman]

Sometimes I think we humans ascribe way too much power to ourselves.

It is certainly possible that there is a phenomenon called global warming.  But it may have nothing to do with what we humans are doing.  It could be caused by forces that we don't control or even understand.

So I guess that means that, quite honestly, I don't know.  And I think that people who say they know for sure are not telling the truth.

[John Dibble]

You science fiction nerds love using graphs that confuse you. The great thing about science, for those of you who don't have a science degree like moi, is that it's principles are the same for something as small as a beer bottle and as big as an ocean. I don't expect you dumb s to know that principle though. Continue watching sh**t like the Day After Tommorow to get your science facts.

Your degree in physical education or whatever the hell it is doesn't make you an expert in earth and atmospheric sciences, troll.

[J. J.]

Of course it's happening.

But by the time it matters, I'll be in hell, so it doesn't much make a difference to me.

Perhaps you missed out on this years hurricane season. The Gulf Streams power has been reduced by 30%, that extra heat was stuck in hurricane land.

However, the reduction has been down since 1992 and during most of the 1990's, we were not having higher hurricane rates (or more destructive hurricanes).

Conversely, according the Time article I'm looking at ("Is Europe Due For a Big Chill?"), there has been several dramatic temperature drops in Greenland over the last 70,000 years.

If you are asking if there has been global warming over the past 15 years, on average, yes.  If you are asking if we've seen a long term trend over the last 50 years for warming, no.  If I just had the date from 1950-80, I could only conclude that we were in a period of global cooling (an some scientists were expecting the world to enter a new ice age).

[Tory]

Yes I believe in it. Do I care? No.