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« on: December 16, 2005, 05:11:08 PM »

Just to give you a heads-up, but the English leader's debate is starting at 8 pm Eastern Time/5 pm Pacific Time. It will define the first half of the campaign outside Quebec (in yesterday's French debate Duceppe sooo won).
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 05:14:42 PM »

Any chance of Martin getting nailed ala Turner '84?
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 05:29:19 PM »

In yesterday's French debate Duceppe sooooo soooo soooooo won that one. He was fluent and kept mentioning the sponsorship scandal. Martin was competant but chesitated quite a bit. Layton and Harper, well, it's not like they have a chance in Quebec.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 07:48:08 PM »

It's not really a debate, as there will be no arguing. Therefore there will be no knock out punches. The leaders will just be answering questions posed by Canadians.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2005, 10:07:44 PM »

It looks like Layton showed off his eloquent public speaking skills. He was by far the winner this time. Harper was lackluster and Martin could have been better. Duceppe, well it was hilarious when he urged Quebekers to "sanction" the corrupt Liberal government Cheesy.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2005, 10:17:14 PM »

It looks like Layton showed off his eloquent public speaking skills. He was by far the winner this time. Harper was lackluster and Martin could have been better. Duceppe, well it was hilarious when he urged Quebekers to "sanction" the corrupt Liberal government Cheesy.

Layton did not win, I don't think. I think he showed himself to be particularly left wing, and mentioned Ed Broadbent far too often. Having said that (pardon my Duceppism) I don't think anyone won. Martin did a good lecture of Duceppe about sovereignty.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2005, 11:02:07 PM »

While I am not a fan of the NDP you have to admit his performance was very strong and Harper was hesitating. He mentioned how all his proposed social programs (even if I disagree with many of his ideas) very specifically, with a vision and kept repeating "Send more New Democrats to Ottawa".

Harper's theme was to "defeat the Liberals whatever the cost."

Did you see the question in which the leaders were asked what they want to see Canada to be in fifty years? Harper was big on ideas but was excessively vague.

On the question on what they would do if Quebec separated Martin missed the point. I loved his lecture to Duceppe but he didn't address the question itself.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2005, 11:47:00 PM »

Dean, why do you not like the NDP anyways? sometimes we have to compromise on some issues and support the party that fits best.

But anyways, I don't really think Jack won the debate, even though many people are saying he did. Maybe I'm just one of those people who are too critical of the people they support?
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 12:07:10 AM »

Dean, why do you not like the NDP anyways? sometimes we have to compromise on some issues and support the party that fits best.
They are too ideological and socialistic. The solution for any problem is to throw money at it and it magically goes away.

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 01:29:49 AM »

Dean, why do you not like the NDP anyways? sometimes we have to compromise on some issues and support the party that fits best.
They are too ideological and socialistic. The solution for any problem is to throw money at it and it magically goes away.


Yeah, I know. I don't like that either. But they're still better than either the Liberals or the tories or the Greens (sorry, but Jim Harris is a nut)
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