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Question: Should the issue of abortion be decided by the Supreme Court, or by state legislatures?
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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2005, 11:14:51 AM »

State legislatures. No reason for it to be a federal issue.
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2005, 11:17:07 AM »

If it's not the same in all states, then you have a disparity of rights.  Mississippi would certainly ban abortion, and though our few rich women could travel to wherever abortion was legal, our poor women would not have that same opportunity.  Come to think of it, that'd mean more Democratic voters 20 years down the road...
No, there'd just be more illegal abortions, which means fewer democrats right now because some of these women will die and others end up in prison (though not for murder - I doubt that would happen even in Misssisssipppi)
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2005, 02:53:33 PM »

since when is abortion on demand a constitutional right?
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2005, 03:07:15 PM »

since when is abortion on demand a constitutional right?
It is certainly not a constitutional right. However, it is a right nonetheless.
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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2005, 04:19:44 PM »

since when is abortion on demand a constitutional right?

Since 1973, dumbass.
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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2005, 09:11:45 PM »

Roe V. Wade needs to go. At this point, it's the only thing keeping the Republicans in power. An outrageous number of people who vote Republican only do so because they are anti-abortion.
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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2005, 09:39:07 PM »

Overturning Roe would help, not hurt, the Republican Party.
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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2005, 10:24:45 PM »

Why are national legislatures or constitutional amendments not an option? Because conservative pseudo-libertarians see everything as a titanic struggle between federalist originalism and the giant evil leviathan.
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2005, 11:58:28 PM »

State legislatures, obviously.  Though if someone wants to try and pass a constitutional amendment on this subject, I'm game to hearing its wording, though I doubt it'll pass.

If it's not the same in all states, then you have a disparity of rights.  Mississippi would certainly ban abortion, and though our few rich women could travel to wherever abortion was legal, our poor women would not have that same opportunity.  Come to think of it, that'd mean more Democratic voters 20 years down the road...

Mississippi has already pretty much banned abortion anyway by chipping away at various rules and regulations in the state legislature and by the natural public opposition to abortion in the populace.

Last time I heard, there was only one abortion clinic left in the state, a publicly funded one in Jackson.  The rest, public and private, had been put out of business.  That one may have closed down as well, though I hadn't heard it as of yet.
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« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2005, 01:43:55 PM »

Overturning Roe would help, not hurt, the Republican Party.
How? They would lose many of the social conservatives who only vote because of this issue.
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« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2005, 03:42:22 PM »

Overturning Roe would help, not hurt, the Republican Party.
How? They would lose many of the social conservatives who only vote because of this issue.

Abortion would not become illegal just because Roe is overturned. It would stop being a judicial issue, but continue to be a political issue. Thus, abortion would still be an important part of the political process.
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« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2005, 12:41:46 AM »

The second Roe is overturned, abortion would be made illegal by legislatures in at least 25 states.  Republicans would be crippled in many of these states as a result.
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« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2005, 12:50:46 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2005, 03:03:39 PM by Harry »

Last time I heard, there was only one abortion clinic left in the state, a publicly funded one in Jackson.  The rest, public and private, had been put out of business.  That one may have closed down as well, though I hadn't heard it as of yet.
It's still there....people used to protest outside it a lot, but I haven't seen to much of it lately.  Actually, I can't say for certain that it's still open.  Anyhow, I feel like abortion should either be legal everywhere or legal nowhere.  Allowing it in New York but not in Mississippi is ridiculous, because it gives the right to any rich person, but only certain poor people.
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« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2005, 02:04:01 AM »

I lean towards legislatures.
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« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2005, 06:22:47 AM »


It's still there....people used to protest outside it a lot, but I haven't seen to much of it lately.  Actually, I can't say for certain that it's still open.  Anyhow, I feel like abortion should either be legal everywhere or legal nowhere.  Allowing it in New York but not in Mississippi is ridiculous, because it gives the right to any rich person, but only certain poor people.

Sam Spade, the existence of other, more enlightened nations means that abortion will always be available to the rich.  In fact, even if the practice were made illegal worldwide, the very rich could have their private doctors perform it if necessary. 

The situation would be not unlike the current situation with the banned victimless 'crime' of prostitution - the procedure is still available to nearly everyone, but is very difficult to find, highly overpriced, and, for the masses, done in an unecessarily dangerous fashion.  The rich are able to purchase a service nearly as good as that as would be available were the practice legal, but at a great price.
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