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« on: December 21, 2005, 08:22:37 AM »

Particularly in the last two elections, cities have been voting overwhelmingly Democratic, whereas rural areas have been voting like it's 1984.

Why the huge split?
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2005, 11:05:06 AM »

What percentage of the country lives in exurbs, suburbs, and cities, however defined?
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2005, 08:16:07 PM »

So what are the numbers?
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2005, 04:38:09 PM »

Do exurbs count as suburbs or rural areas?
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2005, 05:29:46 PM »

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Yeah, that includes me.

I can't picture an exurb. Any photos online?
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2005, 05:35:50 PM »

So then what's the difference between a rural community within a metropolitan area and an exurb?
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2005, 05:45:50 PM »

Marketing term? What?
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2005, 05:55:58 PM »

This area is 'rural' by everyday usage of that term.

Definitely not a 'suburb' in every day usage. Twenty acres of land a mule territory... Got a better term?
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2005, 08:25:06 PM »


I said a better term.

What's your objection to identifying these rural areas as rural?
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2005, 09:22:45 PM »

Rural means out in the country. Not poor.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2005, 10:41:36 AM »

Property developers and the dictionary.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2005, 11:50:27 AM »

So out in the country, as I said.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2005, 12:02:04 PM »


Sounds like out in the country to me.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2005, 12:26:06 PM »

It implies that it is not urban, which the country is not.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2005, 02:21:06 PM »

The fact that something implies the lack of something else, does not mean the lack of that latter something defines the former.

A rural area is simply out in the country, and the term obviously includes 20 acre lots beyond a well-developed area, regardless of where the residents work.

Now, that's the normal definition. You're free to have your own, but it's pretty much worthless, since no one uses it.
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A18
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2005, 03:35:39 PM »

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It's defined by the country.

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Actually, you posted definitions that proved me right. You are correct in saying we've been over it several times, which is why it's amusing that you still refuse to listen. You're like a spoilt three year old at times.

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Yes, it does. Keep your snobbery to yourself.

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Everyone around here considers the country rural, as does the dictionary.

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A definition can not be 'accurate' or 'inaccurate' except based on how it is used, which is obviously not how you use it. I'm sorry you're too dumb to understand.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2005, 03:41:32 PM »

It somewhat depends on how the area feels...
How do these 20 acres look? Do they all look alike? Post us some description, Philip.

Grassy, hay, large forest area on the side. We don't actually have any farmers right where I live, but you don't have to drive far to see some farms and animals.
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A18
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2005, 03:57:13 PM »

So basically, you're living in an urban millionaire's ghetto not too far from where the inner city ends and the suburbs begin. Tongue

Okay, not really. But a core part of the definition of rural as vs suburban, apart from "not too closely linked in with the city", is that even though it's not actually largely agricultural (since otherwise you wouldn't find many rural areas left in the US), it still looks somewhat as if it might be.

Another question: What are the houses like? How old are they? Are they mostly all the same age?

Pretty much all new. Not everyone around here is rich though. The main attraction to the place is the countryside atmosphere, at a location close enough to the city to not feel so isolated.
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2005, 04:51:09 PM »

And how do the two differ? It is obviously the countryside, so it's rural.
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2006, 02:55:16 PM »

Democrats want to make the pie bigger and Republicans want to take all the pie pieces from the poor and give them to the rich.

What absolute nonsense. Republicans want to make the pie bigger. Democrats simply try to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor.
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