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« on: December 30, 2005, 01:48:04 AM »
Popular vote? Map?

Should be interesting...
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2005, 02:07:04 AM »
Quote from: A18 on December 30, 2005, 01:48:04 AM
Popular vote? Map?

Should be interesting...



Likely scenario.  I mean if he beat Mondale by this much, how would Carter stand (especially considering Carter's prior presidential record)
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2005, 01:50:35 PM »
The scenario:

In 1976, Jimmy Carter was elected Vice-President on a ticket with Senator Birch Bayh of Indiana. After a difficult first term, Ronald Reagan is elected President in a close race over President Bayh. In 1984 former Vice-President Carter wins the Democratic nomination and choses Senator Daneil Patrick Moynihan as his running-mate.



Ronald Reagan/George Bush (R): 440 Electoral Votes

Jimmy Carter/Daniel P. Moynihan (D): 98 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2005, 04:39:28 PM »
No, I meant if everything else was the same, but Carter got the nomination again in 1984.

How does the South play out?
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2005, 11:22:23 AM »
Reagan, without question.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2005, 11:59:18 AM »
If Carter had never been President before he would have performed better than some suggest, particularly in the South where he ran many states fairly close even in 1980.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2005, 01:55:40 PM »
Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2005, 11:17:48 PM »
Carter, who would do better than Mondale (though that's not saying anything)
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2006, 11:29:48 PM »
Ronald Reagan

It's hard to imagine too many people really doing well against Reagan in 1984.  I guess Carter might have done better had he not been already tagged a failed president, but I still don't see him coming anywhere close to winning.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 03:37:48 PM »
I'd stay home. Neither candidate really holds much for me.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2006, 12:49:04 PM »
I'd have half-heartedly supported Mondale, so in all likelihood Carter

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 02:16:20 PM »
The only question is, who carries Georgia?  It could be Reagan, 435, Carter 3.  He was seen as a bigger failure in 1984 than even 1980.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 10:45:09 PM »
Reagan, he would of had a shot to sweep all the real electoral votes, but the abomination of DC would of still gone to Carter
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2006, 07:51:27 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2006, 11:03:59 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2006, 11:13:19 PM »
The Carter campaign is in sheer joy when, at 10:00 PM, Washington DC is called for their guy making the race...









535-2, Reagan  Smiley

Note that one of the DC electors abstianed in protest of DC's lack of Congressional representation.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2006, 11:54:52 PM »
Carter. Reagan is the worst president of all time as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2006, 04:58:41 AM »
Thank god for the write-in line...

Honestly, with the exception of Lloyd Bentsen's candidacy for the vice-presidency in 88', the 80s gave the worst slew of candidates to date. Replacing Mondale with Carter would be like replacing Hitler with Franco...no significant difference.



Reagan/Bush - 54% - 509 EVs
Carter/Mondale (I assume this is the VP) - 45% - 29 EVs
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2006, 11:41:39 AM »

I vote Carter
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2006, 02:14:26 PM »
Quote from: J. J. on January 09, 2006, 02:16:20 PM
The only question is, who carries Georgia?  It could be Reagan, 535, Carter 3.  He was seen as a bigger failure in 1984 than even 1980.

My thoughts exactly. Carter was the worst president since Hoover and has gotten worse since he has left office.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2006, 11:00:53 PM »
Why would anyone think Carter would have even the remotest chance against Reagan in 1984?

Carter would win DC, and MAYBE Georgia, and I'm being generous to Carter with Georgia.

Carter proved he was not a leader, and was one of America's truly failed Presidents.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2006, 04:33:38 PM »
Quote from: Supersoulty on January 10, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
The Carter campaign is in sheer joy when, at 10:00 PM, Washington DC is called for their guy making the race...









535-2, Reagan  Smiley

Note that one of the DC electors abstianed in protest of DC's lack of Congressional representation.

EV 535-2

Even one of the DC electors refuses to vote for Carter. 

Is there no mercy?

How could things possibly get any worse for the hapless, inept Jimmy?
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2006, 05:35:23 PM »
I wouldn't bother standing out in the Texas heat to vote in an election that would be an obvious landslide.

I'll give Jimmy Georgia, DC, Rhode Island, and Massachucettes. I think I am being kind.
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2006, 05:42:52 PM »
I think there would only be two or possibly three Dems who would have a shot to defeat Reagan. Ted Kennedy was not as old, and still a charismatic Kennedy, but Chappaquidick kills him off.

Morris Udall, blessed with a gifted sense of humor and elongated build, which allows favorable comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, probably lacked the cash to beat Reagan, but he could've made the campaign extremely interesting.

Finally, Gary Hart was young, charismatic, and intelligent. We hadn't heard of Donna Rice, and he had an anti-establishment look. Hart could not out delegate Mondale in the primaries which is a shame, as he looked to have been the one able to defeat Reagan.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2006, 12:06:43 AM »
Either way America loses, but to be a partisan hack, Jimmy Carter.
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