Immigration?

[minionofmidas]

In my heart of hearts, I consider all and any restrictions on people's movements as heinous and illegal. Remove all borders whatsoever!
Okay, okay, I know, not practicable, dangerous, not going to happen anyway...Still, as little immigration restictions as possible.

[minionofmidas]

There is no reason why the US should refuse immigrants. It is after all a nation of immigrants. The same goes for Canada, Australia and NZ. Immigration in Europe is more contentious. It's heavily populated already and has been monocultural for centuries. This makes it harder for the resident population and the immigrants to integrate.

Europe monocultural? No way.

[minionofmidas]

Until the 1950's, England was very monocultural. OK, it was historically a mix of different Europeans, Danes, Germans, French etc. but it was virtually 100% white.
Now some cities such as Leicester are 40% visable minority.

I thought the English don't consider England a part of Europe?
Anyways, even before South Asians etc from the 50s on, there was Italian and Eastern European (mostly Jewish) mass immigration to Britain in the 19th century. Not to forget Irish and Highland Scots - not exactly monocultural!

[minionofmidas]

Hmm, there were small numbers of Italian & Irish immigrants yes, but it hardly compares to the composition of the UK now does it? In any case, I am in favour of multiculturalism.

Aye it does.

[minionofmidas]

I think we should mobilize the Natioanal Guard along the Mexican boarder. Let the legals come through from Mexico but just shoot the illegals on site. It'll slow down the immigration a lot and I know that!

Let Canada be open though, hardly anyone comes in from there.

I can see a time in the far, far future where illegal Mexicans are trying to get accross the Canadain boarder!

That would take app. 7 seconds.
And the only ones to gain would be Canadian criminals.

[minionofmidas]

I think we should mobilize the Natioanal Guard along the Mexican boarder. Let the legals come through from Mexico but just shoot the illegals on site. It'll slow down the immigration a lot and I know that!

Let Canada be open though, hardly anyone comes in from there.

I can see a time in the far, far future where illegal Mexicans are trying to get accross the Canadain boarder!

If you can get into canada, then it's a lot easier to get into the USA.  My second roomie in college was an illegal immigrant from Iran.  He came to Canada legally, then got into the US illegally from there.  Many of his friends had come to Mexico first, then to the USA from there.  They're coming friend.  You can either burn your money (and mine!) or accept that globalism is here to stay.  Free markets require open borders.  when all the sh**t jobs are taken there will be no incentive for illegals to keep coming and a new equilibrium will be established.  It's really very simple.  (unless you start to offer socialized medicine and welfare and such, then it's like asking for trouble.)  

The biggest trouble-asker though is skewed terms of trade.

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It takes people time to notice. Lots of time. Decades. Mass immigration is here to stay. And all that your - and our, who are worse - politicians do about it just kills hardworking decent folks and feeds smugglers.

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"People should be able to come and go, if they can afford it."
  --Harry Browne

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The second part of that nicely sums up what's wrong with Libertarians.