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« on: January 14, 2006, 01:32:39 AM »

Being Economically Leftist and Socially Conservative is immoral.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2006, 01:33:32 AM »

I agree 100%
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2006, 01:45:38 AM »

I voted strongly disagree.  I have also been interested in liberation theology even if I do not agree with many of its ideas.  I do not think most of these people were immoral. They had strong religious beliefs, a hyper sense of social justice and a misguided idealism.  Taken together I do not see how they are mutually exclusive.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2006, 01:47:42 AM »

They may be decent people but the ideology as a whole is just disgusting authoritarianism of the worst sort. America needs more freedom and an end to this kind of authoritarian drivel.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2006, 02:28:39 AM »

Drivel, there is a lot of that going on.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2006, 03:29:52 AM »

It's the opposite of my politics, but certainly isn't "immoral".
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006, 05:27:18 AM »

It's the opposite of my politics, but certainly isn't "immoral".
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 08:00:47 AM »
« Edited: January 14, 2006, 08:24:30 AM by dazzleman »

It's not immoral, though it doesn't reflect my politics.  It's funny that a social liberal is attacking social conservatives as immoral, when one of the central tenets of social liberalism is that morality is useless and outdated.

It's kind of like the 'tolerance police' who want to persecute everybody who doesn't share their beliefs.  A total contradiction in terms.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 08:18:32 AM »


Ditto
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2006, 08:40:33 AM »


Exactly.  Just because someone doesn't agree with me do I think they're immoral.  Most people with this ideology are good people with a noble cause, and really the only thing I really disagree with them about is using the Government to fund those causes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2006, 09:09:48 AM »

Uh, what?  No.

It's funny that a social liberal is attacking social conservatives as immoral, when one of the central tenets of social liberalism is that morality is useless and outdated.

I wouldn't say that.  I don't think the majority of social liberals think that morality doesn't exist.  They just happen not to agree with the notion that the Bible is the be-all and end-all of what is and isn't morality.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2006, 09:13:35 AM »

Shockingly I strongly, strongly disagree...
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2006, 09:14:20 AM »

Shockingly I strongly, strongly disagree...

Whyever would that be?  It's not like the notion hits close to home or something. Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2006, 09:15:24 AM »

Of course there is no such thing as objective morality, but answering the question in terms of who I dislike I voted Strongly Agree.  Feed these to the lions, please.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2006, 09:34:47 AM »

Uh, what?  No.

It's funny that a social liberal is attacking social conservatives as immoral, when one of the central tenets of social liberalism is that morality is useless and outdated.

I wouldn't say that.  I don't think the majority of social liberals think that morality doesn't exist.  They just happen not to agree with the notion that the Bible is the be-all and end-all of what is and isn't morality.

I don't think the bible should be the be-all and end-all either, necessarily.  But many of these people oppose ideas simply because they are in the bible, which is different from saying that the bible doesn't have the final word on everything (which would be difficult in any case since it has many contradictions).
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2006, 10:09:30 AM »

Meet my dad.  Of course I said strongly disagree, but I feel like slapping him and telling him to shut up every time he badmouths the modern Democrats and relishes the Casey family.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2006, 11:47:22 AM »

Meet my dad.  Of course I said strongly disagree, but I feel like slapping him and telling him to shut up every time he badmouths the modern Democrats and relishes the Casey family.

How tolerant of you.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2006, 12:13:28 PM »

I think we need keep the country bumpkins down. IF we'd done some tiamenen square type things to various rightist movements in the 70's we wouldn't have the problem with the christian coalitionthat we do today.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2006, 01:05:10 PM »

I disagree with the latter, but it's not immoral.
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2006, 01:20:23 PM »

I voted strongly disagree.  I have also been interested in liberation theology even if I do not agree with many of its ideas.  I do not think most of these people were immoral. They had strong religious beliefs, a hyper sense of social justice and a misguided idealism.  Taken together I do not see how they are mutually exclusive.

So you support communism then? If so you went up a notch in my book!

It's not immoral, though it doesn't reflect my politics.  It's funny that a social liberal is attacking social conservatives as immoral, when one of the central tenets of social liberalism is that morality is useless and outdated.

No, that's hardly my position at all. I just don't think that things that social conservatives consider immoral are immoral at all. I actually saw on a site of a left wing church coalition about how certain activities of the Bush Administration are immoral and what they call unChristian, yet they seem to be largely tolerant of abortion and homosexuality and socially liberal.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2006, 01:26:41 PM »

I'm not that but it's not immoral, just different.
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