Religion & Political Affiliation

[12th Doctor]

Though isn't Ireland becoming less catholic--indeed less religious--as its become wealthier?

(I've seen some reports calling it the most globalized country in europe)

Yeah I read that in Foriegn Policy magazine that Ireland is themost globalized country inthe world.  I think that it is still by far the nation with the highest percentage of church attendence though.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

correct. Lutherns outside of here however tend to belong to the more conservative denominations. Outside of here, Iowa, Wisconsin and the Dakotas, you won't find too many ELCA members.

[English]

Though isn't Ireland becoming less catholic--indeed less religious--as its become wealthier?

(I've seen some reports calling it the most globalized country in europe)

Yeah I read that in Foriegn Policy magazine that Ireland is themost globalized country inthe world.  I think that it is still by far the nation with the highest percentage of church attendence though.

Too much is made about Ireland's staunch catholicism. The Irish may go to church, but they're really not that religious. I think many of them go just for something to do!

[CARLHAYDEN]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

No.  

The Lutheran churches are an exception to the general decline among old line protestant churches in the United States.  There has been a quiet and general expansion of lutherans as many protestants flee the politically correct 'churches.'  

No, the majority of American Lutherans do NOT "live in the upper midwest."

Acutally as Scandanavian Americans slowly drop their historical membership in Lutheran churchs (which has been going on for more than two decades) the percentage of Luterans residing in the "upper midwest" has been slightly declining while it has been growing nationwide.

Ethnically, the largest component of lutheran churches in the United States is probably (surprise) people whose historical antecedants are German.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Mexico, Brazile and South Africa were sending missionaries into England.  Quite an ironic twist.

I hate those arrogant bastards.

[pieman]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

No.  

The Lutheran churches are an exception to the general decline among old line protestant churches in the United States.  There has been a quiet and general expansion of lutherans as many protestants flee the politically correct 'churches.'  

No, the majority of American Lutherans do NOT "live in the upper midwest."

Acutally as Scandanavian Americans slowly drop their historical membership in Lutheran churchs (which has been going on for more than two decades) the percentage of Luterans residing in the "upper midwest" has been slightly declining while it has been growing nationwide.

Ethnically, the largest component of lutheran churches in the United States is probably (surprise) people whose historical antecedants are German.

The lutheran churches in the rural parts of Minnesota are much more conservative than the lutheran churches in the metro area.

Lutheran churches in Minnesota tend to reflect the general population in the area they are located rather than being strongly one party or the other in general.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

No.  

The Lutheran churches are an exception to the general decline among old line protestant churches in the United States.  There has been a quiet and general expansion of lutherans as many protestants flee the politically correct 'churches.'  

No, the majority of American Lutherans do NOT "live in the upper midwest."

Acutally as Scandanavian Americans slowly drop their historical membership in Lutheran churchs (which has been going on for more than two decades) the percentage of Luterans residing in the "upper midwest" has been slightly declining while it has been growing nationwide.

Ethnically, the largest component of lutheran churches in the United States is probably (surprise) people whose historical antecedants are German.

The lutheran churches in the rural parts of Minnesota are much more conservative than the lutheran churches in the metro area.

Lutheran churches in Minnesota tend to reflect the general population in the area they are located rather than being strongly one party or the other in general.

Like Baptists/Pentacostalists in WV?

[CARLHAYDEN]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

No.  

The Lutheran churches are an exception to the general decline among old line protestant churches in the United States.  There has been a quiet and general expansion of lutherans as many protestants flee the politically correct 'churches.'  

No, the majority of American Lutherans do NOT "live in the upper midwest."

Acutally as Scandanavian Americans slowly drop their historical membership in Lutheran churchs (which has been going on for more than two decades) the percentage of Luterans residing in the "upper midwest" has been slightly declining while it has been growing nationwide.

Ethnically, the largest component of lutheran churches in the United States is probably (surprise) people whose historical antecedants are German.

The lutheran churches in the rural parts of Minnesota are much more conservative than the lutheran churches in the metro area.

Lutheran churches in Minnesota tend to reflect the general population in the area they are located rather than being strongly one party or the other in general.

Have you compared the Synod involved.

Wisconsin is very conservative, while Missouri is conservative and ELCA tends to vary from church to church (Scandanavia ELCA tend to be more liberal than German ELCA).

Outside of the the upper Midwest in some ELCA churches, Lutherans are pretty generally conservative.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Baptists are Strong Republicans

[classical liberal]

Mexico, Brazile and South Africa were sending missionaries into England.  Quite an ironic twist.

I hate those arrogant bastards.

Turnabout is fair play.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

But wait...aren't most (I actually have to exclude myself here)...Lutherans scandanavian/german and midwesterners?

(I realize that in the carolinas there is a large amount of republican lutherans, but don't the majority live in the upper midwest?)

No.  

The Lutheran churches are an exception to the general decline among old line protestant churches in the United States.  There has been a quiet and general expansion of lutherans as many protestants flee the politically correct 'churches.'  

No, the majority of American Lutherans do NOT "live in the upper midwest."

Acutally as Scandanavian Americans slowly drop their historical membership in Lutheran churchs (which has been going on for more than two decades) the percentage of Luterans residing in the "upper midwest" has been slightly declining while it has been growing nationwide.

Ethnically, the largest component of lutheran churches in the United States is probably (surprise) people whose historical antecedants are German.

The lutheran churches in the rural parts of Minnesota are much more conservative than the lutheran churches in the metro area.

Lutheran churches in Minnesota tend to reflect the general population in the area they are located rather than being strongly one party or the other in general.

I live in "rural" Minnesota (it's actually a small but definately urban city who's Chamber of Commerce's motto is "A little Twin Cities. A lot Minnesota.", but it's 80 miles southwest of Minneapolis and definately not a metro area) and the ELCA churches here sure as hell aren't conservative.

[CARLHAYDEN]

As I previously noted, Missouri and Wisconsin synods are conservative, while ELCA varies, largely based on ethnicity of the congregation (irrespective of urbanity).

[English]

Mexico, Brazile and South Africa were sending missionaries into England.  Quite an ironic twist.

I hate those arrogant bastards.

Turnabout is fair play.

I had some moron thrusting Jesus in my face in Manchester a couple of weeks ago. He was most perturbed when I told him I was Buddhist. Hate people like that, if they want to believe in Jesus, good for them, however they have no right to go around imposing their views on others or worst of all, pouring scorn on other people's beliefs.
I'll tell them to f*** off next time.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Baptists are Strong Republicans

Not always... IIRC Southern WV has a large Baptist population...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Mexico, Brazile and South Africa were sending missionaries into England.  Quite an ironic twist.

I hate those arrogant bastards.

Turnabout is fair play.

I had some moron thrusting Jesus in my face in Manchester a couple of weeks ago. He was most perturbed when I told him I was Buddhist. Hate people like that, if they want to believe in Jesus, good for them, however they have no right to go around imposing their views on others or worst of all, pouring scorn on other people's beliefs.
I'll tell them to f*** off next time.

What really pisses me off about them is their arrogant and hypocritical attitude (hey: a higher % of the U.K is Christian than most of their own countries. If they feel the need to convert others let them pleeeeease do it in their own back yard)...
Most of them seem only to be familer with Leviticus... none of the ones I've met/been verbally assualted by, seem to have *ever* read the Sermon on the Mount...

[English]

Baptists are Strong Republicans

Not always... IIRC Southern WV has a large Baptist population...

Afro-American Baptists are staunch Democrats.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

it's better to say SOUTHERN Baptists are staunch Republicans, other Baptist denominations are more liberal and not quite as much, like the American Baptists which Jimmy Carter belongs to.

[afleitch]

Send any screaming evangelists to the UK and they will be run out of town! Some English evangelistss hijacked a church in Glasgow and have sandwich-board wearing loons on the street who get less attention from the public than a singing drunkard! 'Missionaries can come all they want, but one thing the British HATE more than anything else is religion being shoved down their throats. That doesn't mean we are unreligious, just that we are very private about it.

[??????????]

Baptists are Strong Republicans

Not always... IIRC Southern WV has a large Baptist population...

Afro-American Baptists are staunch Democrats.

And that makes no sense at all when you compare it with the Democrat Platform.