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« on: January 30, 2006, 06:53:41 PM »
Blue = 2 votes for fascism
Green = 1 vote for fascism
Red = 0 votes for fascism
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2006, 06:55:30 PM »
What's with Ensign?
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2006, 06:59:19 PM »


Such a lovely map.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 07:00:22 PM »
He got into a car accident, and couldn't show up for the vote. He's currently hospitalized.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 07:05:20 PM »
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:00:22 PM
He got into a car accident, and couldn't show up for the vote. He's currently hospitalized.

Well, that is small consolation.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM »
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM »
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM »
Quote from: opebo on January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2006, 07:13:06 PM »
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: opebo on January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
No, "senatorial courtesy" only applies when the home state senator and the President belong to the same party (whether Republican or Democrat).
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 07:17:10 PM »

Yeah, kinda reminds me of the one I saw a couple of Novembers ago.

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 07:58:50 PM »
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:18:37 PM
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Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM
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Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
No, "senatorial courtesy" only applies when the home state senator and the President belong to the same party (whether Republican or Democrat).

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"[T]he tradition of senatorial courtesy' ... defers to the preferences of senators belonging to the president's party who represent a particular nominee's home state."

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 08:00:57 PM »
Why didn't Hagel vote in this?
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2006, 08:05:29 PM »
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: opebo on January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
No, "senatorial courtesy" only applies when the home state senator and the President belong to the same party (whether Republican or Democrat).

Bullsh**t
"[T]he tradition of senatorial courtesy' ... defers to the preferences of senators belonging to the president's party who represent a particular nominee's home state."

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No, you lying Republican. They even blocked several of Clinton's nominees from ever getting a vote who had the support of BOTH of their home state Senators. You are a lying hypocrite.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2006, 08:18:13 PM »
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: opebo on January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
No, "senatorial courtesy" only applies when the home state senator and the President belong to the same party (whether Republican or Democrat).

Bullsh**t
"[T]he tradition of senatorial courtesy' ... defers to the preferences of senators belonging to the president's party who represent a particular nominee's home state."

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No, you lying Republican.

Uh, he quoted the Senate web site.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2006, 08:20:47 PM »
Quote from: A18 on January 30, 2006, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 30, 2006, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: opebo on January 30, 2006, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 07:06:53 PM
At least both of Alito's home state Senators voted to fillibuster his lying fascist ass.

Wait, where is that religious from?  I thought that a senator from a candidate's home-state could more or less 'blacklist' him.. or was that just for the lower federal judiciary?

Yes, that is the tradition when a Democrat has nominated someone.
No, "senatorial courtesy" only applies when the home state senator and the President belong to the same party (whether Republican or Democrat).

Bullsh**t
"[T]he tradition of senatorial courtesy' ... defers to the preferences of senators belonging to the president's party who represent a particular nominee's home state."

(Source)

No, you lying Republican.

Uh, he quoted the Senate web site.

So? Plenty of Clinton's nominees with the support of both Senators were blocked, and plenty of Bush's nominees with the support of neither Senators were confirmed.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2006, 08:22:23 PM »
He was simply explaining that senatorial courtesy only applies when the senators and president are of the same party, and so opposition of both senators is irrelevant in this case.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2006, 08:23:33 PM »
Quote from: jfern on January 30, 2006, 08:05:29 PM
]They even blocked several of Clinton's nominees from ever getting a vote who had the support of BOTH of their home state Senators.
Um, senatorial courtesy applies only if a home state senator of the President's party wants to reject the nomination. It does not apply if the home state senator supports the nomination.

Otherwise, everyone would have voted for Clarence Thomas, simply on the grounds that both Georgia Senators voted for him.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2006, 08:45:09 PM »
So Ensign, Hagel, and who else didn't vote?
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2006, 08:46:48 PM »
Quote from: nclib on January 30, 2006, 08:45:09 PM
So Ensign, Hagel, and who else didn't vote?

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2006, 08:49:55 PM »
It looks like Bayh was the only Senator from a Bush state to vote against cloture.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2006, 08:52:41 PM »
Quote from: nclib on January 30, 2006, 08:49:55 PM
It looks like Bayh was the only Senator from a Bush state to vote against cloture.

He voted against Roberts (despite introducing him at a press conference)(!), and now he votes against Alito and for a filibuster.

He's running for president!
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2006, 11:50:28 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2006, 11:52:00 PM by A18 »


Is that right?
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2006, 11:51:39 PM »

If you had looked at mine, you'd see your Iowa is wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2006, 11:55:12 PM »
Yeah, I fixed it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2006, 12:00:37 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2006, 12:02:40 AM by jfern »
Interestingly the only Senators to explictly vote against cloture from Bush states were Minority Leader Reid from his purplish state, and Senator Bayh from decidedly red Indiana.

The Blue state spineless are Inouye, Akaka, Cantwell, Kohl, Lieberman, and Carper.
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