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Question: is the true religion of peace?
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2006, 05:13:10 PM »

Christianity

- Islam goes from Peace to Punishment, Bible goes from Punishment to peace.
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2006, 06:30:58 PM »

Both of them contain elements that encourage bloodshed.  Both of them have extremists who bastardise those elements to fit their own narrow field of vision.

Neither are religions of piece, nor of violence; they are in a grey area inbetween.  I will not argue which is "peacier" either.
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2006, 06:34:16 PM »

Neither
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2006, 06:34:39 PM »

Both and neither
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2006, 06:41:04 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc
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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2006, 06:43:31 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

...Yes.  Yes, they do.
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2006, 06:45:04 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

...Yes.  Yes, they do.

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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2006, 06:53:35 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

...Yes.  Yes, they do.

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Ignoring for a minute the more specific ones (blowing up buses and flying airplanes into things):

You actually assert that no Christian men beat their wives?

Or that no nutjob has ever killed their children and rationalised it by saying God told them to do so?

And what about - say - the Spanish Inquisition?
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2006, 06:58:19 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

...Yes.  Yes, they do.

Links? Sources?

Ignoring for a minute the more specific ones (blowing up buses and flying airplanes into things):

You actually assert that no Christian men beat their wives?

Or that no nutjob has ever killed their children and rationalised it by saying God told them to do so?

And what about - say - the Spanish Inquisition?

The Christian Bible does not approve of husbands beating their wives, the Koran does. Yes, a few nutjobs have killed saying God told them to do it. But it hasn't been taught in schools that killing the name of God is the right thing. Unlike schools in the West Bank.

Spanish Inquisition? Well I guess since the Muslims DO live in the 12th century we can discuss mideval sorts of things.
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2006, 07:09:21 PM »


Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

...Yes.  Yes, they do.

Links? Sources?

Ignoring for a minute the more specific ones (blowing up buses and flying airplanes into things):

You actually assert that no Christian men beat their wives?

Or that no nutjob has ever killed their children and rationalised it by saying God told them to do so?

And what about - say - the Spanish Inquisition?

Funny thing about the Spanish Inquisition (which, to me, had more to do with the political decline of the medieval Catholic Church than Christianity per se), some of its most fervent leaders were themselves Jewish conversos, or their descendents.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2006, 07:29:55 PM »

Christianity and Islam both have peaceful and violent adherents.  Islam currently has more violent adherents than Christianity does, but I personally theorize that this is largely due to the fact that most Muslim-majority nations have very repressive governments that profess hatred against all things non-Muslim, and most Muslims never even have a chance in this situation, because they grow up to believe that speaking out against the words of violent religious leaders is tantamount to criticizing the leaders, which in turn is tantamount to criticizing Islam itself, which, they are told, is the worst thing any person can possibly do.

The fact that the very vocal members of Islam are all very violent and hate-filled is not a testament to Islam itself, but a testament to what I just said: that Muslims are brought up learning never to say a single word against what their religious leaders have to say.  If Muslims all believe that they must never speak out against what their religious leaders say, and if their religious leaders all have very violent things to say, then it's only natural that they will not condemn anything their religious leaders have to say, and, as such, it's only natural for people in the Western world to assume that this is tacit support by all of what their religious leaders have to say - natural, but wrong.
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2006, 07:51:30 PM »

Oh, that hurts my feelings soooo much....I think I'm going to cry!

Wasn't trying to hurt your feelings.  Nor the feelings of the Islamic right for being compared to you.  Just sharing a reality.
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2006, 07:52:41 PM »

Yes, Christians blow up buses, beat women, kill children, fly airplanes into buildings, repress other religions...etc etc etc

Well least we agree on something. =)
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2006, 12:50:08 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2006, 12:54:35 AM »


Luke 10:16 "He who rejects me rejects him who sent me" (words of Jesus Christ)

Boy, Jesus sure was a hateful biggot, wasn't he?



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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2006, 01:03:29 AM »

myeh. Both religions allow killing with 'holy' acceptance.
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2006, 10:30:52 AM »

Christianity and Islam both have peaceful and violent adherents


I agree but I voted Christianity as being the religion of peace (though Buddhism is possibly a more worthy holder of that acolade but then I don't know much about it). Throughout history, both Christians and Muslims have waged war whether against each other and within themselves (i.e. Catholic vs Protestant or Sunni vs Shia)

Today, both Christianity and Islam have their fair share of hateful rhetoricians but I don't see Christian extremists donning bombs and exploding them on packed buses, restaurants and crowded market places etc. Internationalism terrorism (i.e. terrorism that is not spatially-confined) is very much the domain of Islamic extremists

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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2006, 10:51:41 AM »

Internationalism terrorism (i.e. terrorism that is not spatially-confined) is very much the domain of Islamic extremists

It is now, but it wasn't a few decades ago. How times change...
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2006, 01:37:31 PM »

Looking in from the outside christianity and islam don't seem very different at all.
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2006, 01:40:49 PM »

Looking in from the outside christianity and islam don't seem very different at all.

Yeah, if you don't look very hard. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2006, 01:43:12 PM »

Looking in from the outside christianity and islam don't seem very different at all.

Yeah, if you don't look very hard. Roll Eyes

No, the differences are all just unimportant window-dressing.  They're both intolerant, violent, anhedonic, and oppressive.
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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2006, 01:48:05 PM »

Looking in from the outside christianity and islam don't seem very different at all.

Yeah, if you don't look very hard. Roll Eyes

No, the differences are all just unimportant window-dressing.  They're both intolerant, violent, anhedonic, and oppressive.

I repeat - Roll Eyes
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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2006, 01:50:06 PM »

Looking in from the outside christianity and islam don't seem very different at all.

Yeah, if you don't look very hard. Roll Eyes

No, the differences are all just unimportant window-dressing.  They're both intolerant, violent, anhedonic, and oppressive.

I repeat - Roll Eyes

Can't come up with any arguments eh?
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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2006, 02:33:44 PM »

Can't come up with any arguments eh?

It's not that I can't, but why bother? Your arguments can hardly be called that, plus you're entirely unwilling to listen to any form of logic or reason from people who are far more intelligent, educated, and experienced than yourself. So, once again, why bother?
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2006, 06:05:33 PM »

Well, if by 'Christian' you mean 'Quakers' and by 'Muslim' you mean Wahibists, Christianity has the edge.

But if by 'Christian' you mean 'Dispensationalists' and by 'Muslim' you mean 'Bahai'ists' then Islam gets the edge.

Both faiths cover a pretty wide range of philosophical ground.
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