Term Limits Amendment

[MasterJedi]

After seeing Gabu's vote change, this amendment has passed.

[Democratic Hawk]

Colin, as long as the same old gang (to use a portugese expression, the Reumatic Brigade) keeps running again and again to the same positions, no new faces are ever going to try and run because it would be a sacrificial lamb against a powerful incumbent.

Then they should jolly well have to put their best efforts into unseating that "powerful" incumbent. Any incumbent Senator remains in the Senate until such time as his or her electorate deem otherwise (unless they retire of their own chosing), it's called democracy and I, strongly, feel that "term limits" undermine democracy

Dave

[Bono]

Colin, as long as the same old gang (to use a portugese expression, the Reumatic Brigade) keeps running again and again to the same positions, no new faces are ever going to try and run because it would be a sacrificial lamb against a powerful incumbent.

Then they should jolly well have to put their best efforts into unseating that "powerful" incumbent. Any incumbent Senator remains in the Senate until such time as his or her electorate deem otherwise (unless they retire of their own chosing), it's called democracy and I, strongly, feel that "term limits" undermine democracy

Dave

Good, democracy's horrible. Good thing we're a republic.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

We hold free elections, don't we?

Dave

The Senate is not democratically elected.

[Democratic Hawk]

The Senate is not democratically elected.

Senators are elected by their respective Regional or District electors aren't they or are you telling me there are in office by Divine Right?

Dave

[Democratic Hawk]

Colin, as long as the same old gang (to use a portugese expression, the Reumatic Brigade) keeps running again and again to the same positions, no new faces are ever going to try and run because it would be a sacrificial lamb against a powerful incumbent.

Then they should jolly well have to put their best efforts into unseating that "powerful" incumbent. Any incumbent Senator remains in the Senate until such time as his or her electorate deem otherwise (unless they retire of their own chosing), it's called democracy and I, strongly, feel that "term limits" undermine democracy

Dave

Good, democracy's horrible. Good thing we're a republic.

That we are and like many other republics, we are a representative democracy whereby representatives (i.e. Senators) are elected.

Still, if you have contempt for democracy, in that in your own words it is horrible, that's your prerogative

Dave

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The Senate is not democratically elected.

Senators are elected by their respective Regional or District electors aren't they or are you telling me there are in office by Divine Right?

Dave

In a democracy, everyones vote counts the same. Clearly a vote in the 2002 South Dakota Senate race was more valuable than a vote in the 2004 New York or 2004 California Senate races.

[Jake]

Good thing you understand how our Senate is elected.

[MasterJedi]

I hereby open up the final vote on this amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

Senate Term Limits Amendment

Section 9: Term Limits

1. No person shall be elected or appointed to the office of Senator after the adoption of this section who will have served in the Senate 238 or more days in the year prior to the date of his taking office.

2. A Senator who resigns his seat or is expelled from his seat shall for purposes of clause 1 of this section, be deemed to be serving in the Senate until what would have been the end of his term absent such resignation or expulsion.

[MasterJedi]

Nay

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Abstain

[Colin]

Abstain

[Gabu]

Nay.

[Jake]

Nay

[MasterJedi]

This amendment has enough votes to fail, Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.

[CheeseWhiz]

Nay.

[MasterJedi]

With 0 Ayes, 4 Nays and 2 Abstenations this amendment has failed.

[Bono]

Aye ftr.