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Question: Who do you vote for?
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Pro-life Democrat, otherwise liberal on everything else (D)
 
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Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (D)
 
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Pro-life Democrat, otherwise liberal on everything else (R)
 
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Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (R)
 
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Pro-life Democrat, otherwise liberal on everything else (I/Other)
 
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Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (I/Other)
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2006, 03:01:19 AM »

opebo, you're missing the big picture here.  Nobody who is pro-life opposes abortion because they want the State to "control the internal organs" of people.  To imply as such is intellectually dishonest.

Being pro-life is not inconsistent with an ideology that favors the expansion of civil liberties.

Certainly it is.  One is not 'at liberty' if one may not remove various inconvenient parts of/parasites upon one's body at will.

This could be explained as being "Pro-Life, Pro-Liberty, and Pro-Persuit of Happiness".
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2006, 03:07:04 AM »

Anyone calling themselves "pro-life" should be against the death penalty and the Iraq war.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2006, 04:04:58 AM »

It's an important issue to me, but not a pivotal one, so I would probably go with the pro-life dem, as long as the Dem wasn't too liberal.
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2006, 09:15:53 AM »
« Edited: February 15, 2006, 09:26:01 AM by Yaks Hairbrush »

Pro-life democrat--provided he/she wanted the STRICTEST environmental laws ever seen. Otherwise, the choice is too hard to make.

EDIT: On reflection, probably the pro-life democrat in any case. He/she would have better environmental ideas than the pro-choice republican, be more tolerant of gay marriage, etc. These things outweigh the disagreement on abortion. That said, I'd vote any third party candidate over either of them.
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2006, 10:25:19 AM »

I'd choose the Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (R)

How about a pro-life Republican who was otherwise liberal on everything else, would you choose that over its opposite? Tongue

I would still choose the Republican Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2006, 10:48:13 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2006, 11:36:47 AM »

Probably the Pro-life Democrat unless other issues were more imporant at the time.
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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2006, 04:47:07 PM »

Option 1, since option 2 doezn't really exist.

Yes, it does. I tend to vote Republican and yet I consider myself pro-choice.
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2006, 05:08:04 PM »

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One issue voters are idiots.
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2006, 07:53:42 PM »

Pro-Life liberal Democrat.

As long as they accept that the debate of when life begins at conception or at birth is a valid debate.
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2006, 07:57:04 PM »

I'd choose the Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (R)

How about a pro-life Republican who was otherwise liberal on everything else, would you choose that over its opposite? Tongue

I would still choose the Republican Smiley

Okay Don how about Lyndon LaRouche is the Republican candidate, would you vote Republican? Tongue
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2006, 07:57:15 PM »

I'd choose the Pro-choice Republican, otherwise conservative on everything else (R)

How about a pro-life Republican who was otherwise liberal on everything else, would you choose that over its opposite? Tongue

I would still choose the Republican Smiley

I thought so. Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2006, 08:50:24 PM »

Okay Don how about Lyndon LaRouche is the Republican candidate, would you vote Republican? Tongue

Interestingly the people of Louisville have just elected a LaRouche supporter (a Democrat though).
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2006, 03:31:57 PM »

I don't use the pro-life -  pro-choice issue to cast my vote.

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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2006, 01:48:52 AM »

I don't use the pro-life -  pro-choice issue to cast my vote.



I generally agree, however, I would look at the actual positions of each candidate.

Suppose that we were talking about elective cosmetic surgery, a nose job.

One candidate said:  "There is an absolute right for a person to have a nose job.  A 14 year old should have a right, on his own, without his parent's consent or permission of a judge, to get a nose job."  I probably would not vote for that candidate.

Another candidate said:  "Cosmetic surgery should be illegal.  No one should get a nose job, unless their it affects his breathing to the extent that it's life threatening."  I probably wouldn't vote for him either.

It's the extremes that bother me.
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2006, 03:22:54 AM »


Except that nose jobs and abortions are not, in any way, comparable.  Pretty gross simplification if you ask me.
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2006, 11:01:29 AM »


Except that nose jobs and abortions are not, in any way, comparable.  Pretty gross simplification if you ask me.

They are both, in general, voluntary surgical procedures.  Most nose jobs, for example, are not life saving procedures, nor are the result of a crime, though in theory, they could be.  Likewise, I cannot legally perform a nose job in my state, because I'm not a licensed physician. 

There are more similarities that you might wish to admit.
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2006, 11:03:04 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2006, 12:44:51 PM »

It'd be a tough choice, but I'd go Republican.

It's so tough it's painful, but I'd go Republican, too.

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« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2006, 07:13:05 PM »

To be honest, I can't really make up my mind about this right now.
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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2006, 01:18:12 AM »

It really depends.

Firstly, issues are not generally polar, and I don't automatically approve of the 'far left' opinion on everything anyway. (leave Iraq immediately, probably not a good idea.  Fire Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, and the other neo-cons who are  sabotaging our troops in the name of ideological purity - definitely)

Secondly, pro-life and pro-choice can sometimes have a variety of positions.  Someone might personally oppose Abortion (e.g. John Kerry) but think the law should stay out of it.  Another person might have an opinion on the issue, but not have it a high priority for them.

Frankly, I'd be wary of anyone who was too fanatical about the issue - especially if they have hardcore polar positions.
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2006, 01:39:09 AM »

Wow, abortion would loses the Democrats more votes then they gain in this poll. However to be fair, that's likely only because more Democrats than Republicans voted.
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« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2006, 05:12:48 AM »


Remind me which Republicans voted against cloture on Alito?


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Not all people consider abortion their number one issue.
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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2006, 05:48:07 AM »


Remind me which Republicans voted against cloture on Alito?


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Not all people consider abortion their number one issue.

This topic was entirely about abortion.
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« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2006, 05:51:42 AM »

Wow, abortion would loses the Democrats more votes then they gain in this poll. However to be fair, that's likely only because more Democrats than Republicans voted.

For another spin on the results, currently, it could be stated that 14.3% of Democrats vote for the Republican, while 27.3% of Republicans voted for the Democrat.

If we had those results in the 2004 election, Kerry would have won very easily.
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