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« on: February 16, 2006, 01:08:35 pm »
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State%20Polls/February%202006/New%20Jersey%20Senate%20February.htm

Menendez 39
Kean 36

25% remain undecided.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2006, 01:38:09 pm »
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Throw it out. These 20+ undecided polls are meaningless.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2006, 02:05:05 pm »
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That's a lot of undecideds... but i'm pretty sure in the end Kean wins.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2006, 02:20:50 pm »
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This election is the Dems PA.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2006, 02:28:37 pm »
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This election is the Dems PA.

I hope you mean the PA Governors race, not the PA senate race, right?
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2006, 02:29:13 pm »
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This election is the Dems PA.


Something which i've said before Smiley

Though i think it more acurate to say Kean is the GOP's Bob Casey as Menendez is no Santorum and NJ isnt PA.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2006, 03:39:23 pm »
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Looks like this seat will go Democrat.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2006, 03:42:42 pm »
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Kean will win.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2006, 05:51:46 pm »
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Looks like this seat will go Democrat.

Kean will win.

OK, I would have expected the opposite views from you two. Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2006, 09:33:00 pm »
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My guess is that the race will be a VERY close one up until election day when the people of New Jersey remember that they have elected Corzine and Lautenberg as well. Menendez will win, but this race will give Kean a good start at a career in a national office.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2006, 03:49:21 am »
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Shaping up very much like the NJ Governor's race.
Mind you, even when Rasmussen had Kean up 7, Quinnipiac had Menendez leading.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2006, 04:18:00 am »
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...the race will be a VERY close one up until election day when the people of New Jersey remember that they have elected Corzine and Lautenberg as well.


And remembering that you are already represented by Corzine and Lautenberg makes you want to vote for another corrupt, NJ Dem machine hack like Menendez because?

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2006, 04:28:31 am »
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...the race will be a VERY close one up until election day when the people of New Jersey remember that they have elected Corzine and Lautenberg as well.


And remembering that you are already represented by Corzine and Lautenberg makes you want to vote for another corrupt, NJ Dem machine hack like Menendez because?


Because that's all the message the NJ Reps seem to ever have had.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2006, 05:45:29 pm »
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I don't believe it, Menendez should be slightly behind.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2006, 08:59:16 pm »
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I meant the Senate Race.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2006, 09:25:59 pm »
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...the race will be a VERY close one up until election day when the people of New Jersey remember that they have elected Corzine and Lautenberg as well.


And remembering that you are already represented by Corzine and Lautenberg makes you want to vote for another corrupt, NJ Dem machine hack like Menendez because?


Well, they got elected, didn't they? What I mean is that the people of New Jersey have had plenty of perfect opportunities to end the political careers of Corzine and Lautenberg. They could have voted for Doug Forrester in the 2002 Senate election and kept Lautenberg from returning to the Senate. Then last year, they could have voted Forrester for Governor and ended Corzine's career. The same thing will happen this year.

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2006, 06:31:52 am »
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The same thing will happen this year.


Oh the arrogance… not to mention the hypocrisy!

When Republicans like Burns are up for re-election the Dems are so keen to say that corruption and links to lobbyists will spell his doom (and well it might)… but when it comes to their own corrupt office holders like Menendez (and potentially for that matter Sherrod Brown in OH) it will some how not be a factor.

Lets not forget that Kean is not Forrester, there is no enthusiasm in NJ for the Democratic Party is just so happens that in a dirty race between two flawed candidates the one with more money and the partisan advantage of his state on his side won… in a Kean v Menendez fight, cash is unlikely to favour one over the other, folks have a far higher estimation of Kean than Menendez and in the end the only thing going for the Dems will be partisan advantage and I doubt it’ll be enough.         
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2006, 08:41:39 am »
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When Republicans like Burns are up for re-election the Dems are so keen to say that corruption and links to lobbyists will spell his doom (and well it might)… but when it comes to their own corrupt office holders like Menendez (and potentially for that matter Sherrod Brown in OH) it will some how not be a factor.

How is Menendez corrupt?  Nobody's been really able to give concrete examples of his alleged corruption.  (And although there were some example of Corzine's corruption, he still won in NJ by 11% in November!)  Meanwhile, Burns is tied to a nationwide front page story in Jack Abramoff.

Now I still think both candidates will win (Menendez and Burns) but I'd like some examples, from anyone, of Menendez' corruption.
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2006, 09:31:01 am »
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The same thing will happen this year.


Oh the arrogance… not to mention the hypocrisy!

When Republicans like Burns are up for re-election the Dems are so keen to say that corruption and links to lobbyists will spell his doom (and well it might)… but when it comes to their own corrupt office holders like Menendez (and potentially for that matter Sherrod Brown in OH) it will some how not be a factor.

Lets not forget that Kean is not Forrester, there is no enthusiasm in NJ for the Democratic Party is just so happens that in a dirty race between two flawed candidates the one with more money and the partisan advantage of his state on his side won… in a Kean v Menendez fight, cash is unlikely to favour one over the other, folks have a far higher estimation of Kean than Menendez and in the end the only thing going for the Dems will be partisan advantage and I doubt it’ll be enough.         


Well, let me point out which party is in charge right now; the Republicans. No matter how corrupt some Democrats are (I say "some" because I'm almost certain there are more corrupt Republicans than Democrats), they aren't the ones in control, therefore all of these recent scandals are not really their fault. That is why I believe Menendez, as an incumbent Democrat, will win.

Also, the Republicans could attack Menendez (and Brown, if what you said is true) as the Democrats attack Burns, but they are in no position to do so.

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2006, 11:12:49 am »
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Oh the arrogance… not to mention the hypocrisy!

When Republicans like Burns are up for re-election the Dems are so keen to say that corruption and links to lobbyists will spell his doom (and well it might)… but when it comes to their own corrupt office holders like Menendez (and potentially for that matter Sherrod Brown in OH) it will some how not be a factor.

Lets not forget that Kean is not Forrester, there is no enthusiasm in NJ for the Democratic Party is just so happens that in a dirty race between two flawed candidates the one with more money and the partisan advantage of his state on his side won… in a Kean v Menendez fight, cash is unlikely to favour one over the other, folks have a far higher estimation of Kean than Menendez and in the end the only thing going for the Dems will be partisan advantage and I doubt it’ll be enough.         


Well, let me point out which party is in charge right now; the Republicans. No matter how corrupt some Democrats are (I say "some" because I'm almost certain there are more corrupt Republicans than Democrats), they aren't the ones in control, therefore all of these recent scandals are not really their fault. That is why I believe Menendez, as an incumbent Democrat, will win.

Also, the Republicans could attack Menendez (and Brown, if what you said is true) as the Democrats attack Burns, but they are in no position to do so.

The Menendez scandal:

Kay Elizabeth LiCausi's questionable "Climb Up the Ladder "

Original NYT article mentioned above

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2006, 08:43:04 pm »
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    I think Menendez was pretty much screwed from the start. Also this race is similar to PA because the son's of two populer former Govenor's are running. In addition it look's like the Corzinator is having trouble in his new job and the Corzinator may weigh down Menendez.     
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    I think Menendez was pretty much screwed from the start. Also this race is similar to PA because the son's of two populer former Govenor's are running. In addition it look's like the Corzinator is having trouble in his new job and the Corzinator may weigh down Menendez.     

Last time I checked, Corzine has an approval rating surplus about equal to his margin of election.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2006, 09:08:41 pm »
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    I think Menendez was pretty much screwed from the start. Also this race is similar to PA because the son's of two populer former Govenor's are running. In addition it look's like the Corzinator is having trouble in his new job and the Corzinator may weigh down Menendez.     

Last time I checked, Corzine has an approval rating about equal to his margin of election.

Wrong word there, buddy.
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2006, 09:11:36 pm »
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    I think Menendez was pretty much screwed from the start. Also this race is similar to PA because the son's of two populer former Govenor's are running. In addition it look's like the Corzinator is having trouble in his new job and the Corzinator may weigh down Menendez.     

Last time I checked, Corzine has an approval rating about equal to his margin of election.

Wrong word there, buddy.

Actually, it was the right word.  I just forgot to put "has an approval rating margin [or surplus]".  Thanks, though;  I wouldn't have noticed that.
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2006, 09:14:32 pm »
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    I think Menendez was pretty much screwed from the start. Also this race is similar to PA because the son's of two populer former Govenor's are running. In addition it look's like the Corzinator is having trouble in his new job and the Corzinator may weigh down Menendez.     

Last time I checked, Corzine has an approval rating about equal to his margin of election.

Wrong word there, buddy.

Actually, it was the right word.  I just forgot to put "has an approval rating margin [or surplus]".  Thanks, though;  I wouldn't have noticed that.

Be careful, I thought you were trying to say that Gov. Corzine makes Gov. Taft look wildly popular.
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