Palestinian Authority Aid Elimination Bill

[Jake]

The first sentence of Section 2 should be "in a maner that they see fit in their judgement"

Aye

[CheeseWhiz]

Abstain

[Colin]

Aye

[MasterJedi]

The first sentence of Section 2 should be "in a maner that they see fit in their judgement"

Fixed that.


Aye

[Bono]

Abstain

there's a lot I'd like to say about this issue, but then someone would just yell anti-semite and that'd be the end of the discussion.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Nay.  I'm willing to delegate the decision to the Secretary of State.

However if the amendment should pass, I propose the following amendment.

Add to the bill the following:
“3. Upon the recommendation of the Secretary of State to the Senate that it should invoke its authority under section 2, then notwithstanding the Official Senate Procedure Resolution, any Senator may introduce for immediate consideration by the Senate a resolution that would invoke its authority under section 2.”

[WMS]

Aye.

[The Dowager Mod]

Abstain

there's a lot I'd like to say about this issue, but then someone would just yell anti-semite and that'd be the end of the discussion.

My reason for ignoring this debate as well.

[MasterJedi]

Abstain

there's a lot I'd like to say about this issue, but then someone would just yell anti-semite and that'd be the end of the discussion.

My reason for ignoring this debate as well.

Would you be copying Bono's vote as well or was that just a statement? (Just making sure here)

[The Dowager Mod]

No, i plan on voting against the final bill.

[MasterJedi]

No, i plan on voting against the final bill.

Ok but are you going to vote on this amendment at all? (I really hope you do even if it's Abstain)

[The Dowager Mod]

Abstain

[MasterJedi]

This amendment has passed.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

As promised, I'm going to offer this amendment which I'm repeating here in case it got overlooked by some Senators during the voting on the last amendment.:

Add to the bill the following:
“3. Upon the recommendation of the Secretary of State to the Senate that it should invoke its authority under section 2, then notwithstanding the Official Senate Procedure Resolution, any Senator may introduce for immediate consideration by the Senate a resolution that would invoke its authority under section 2.”

[Peter]

Nay on the amendment.

Section 2 is now effectively redundant since the Senate can amend any of the laws regardless of whether a law explicitly allows for it. The Senate has therefore passed my amendment, and then passed another one that effectively undid it. Those who voted Aye twice are therefore total Kerry flip-floppers.

The whole point of allowing executive discretion in matters such as this is so that we don't have to bother to legislate for every minor change in circumstances - if progress is made in the peace process, the SoS can gradually ease the restrictions, but can also tighten them if matters go downhill - in this way he has a saber to rattle with the Palestinians, and the Palestinians know that he doesn't need to get Senate permission every time, so its not going to get bogged down in partisan rancour.

Given that Section 2 is now redundant, I therefore motion to amend to strike the entirity of Section 2.

[MasterJedi]

Nay on the amendment.

We haven't started voting on it yet, Ernest just re-posted it.

[Peter]

To clarify, my vote was on Jake's amendment.

[MasterJedi]

I hereby open up the vote on this amendment to the bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

Add to the bill the following:
“3. Upon the recommendation of the Secretary of State to the Senate that it should invoke its authority under section 2, then notwithstanding the Official Senate Procedure Resolution, any Senator may introduce for immediate consideration by the Senate a resolution that would invoke its authority under section 2.”

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Aye

[MasterJedi]

Abstain

[Colin]

Aye

[CheeseWhiz]

Abstain

[Jake]

Abstain

Are you going to vote on any part of this?

Aye

[The Dowager Mod]

Abstain.

[WMS]

Aye.