Opinion of FDR
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2024, 02:57:11 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Opinion of FDR		 « previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Opinion of FDR
#1
Freedom Fighter		  
#2
Horrible Person		  
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results
Total Voters: 26

Author Topic: Opinion of FDR  (Read 1201 times)
I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,040
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: February 20, 2006, 03:02:39 PM »
Should get some interesting replies...

Freedom Fighter
Logged
Bdub
Brandon W
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,116
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2006, 03:24:40 PM »
Freedom Fighter
Logged
Moooooo
nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2006, 03:27:30 PM »
The Definition of a Horrible Person.
Logged
Gabu
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,386
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -6.52

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2006, 03:59:41 PM »

The definition of a freedom fighter. Smiley
Logged
© tweed
Miamiu1027
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,562
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2006, 04:04:02 PM »
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=33933.0
Logged
dazzleman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,777
Political Matrix
E: 1.88, S: 1.59

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2006, 04:23:00 PM »
Freedom fighter
Logged
dazzleman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,777
Political Matrix
E: 1.88, S: 1.59

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2006, 04:23:59 PM »

You're not really serious, are you Nick? Tongue
Logged
nini2287
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,616


Political Matrix
E: 2.77, S: -3.39

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM »
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2006, 04:26:42 PM »
Both.

A horrible person and a great freedom fighter.
Logged
dazzleman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,777
Political Matrix
E: 1.88, S: 1.59

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM »
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?
Logged
nini2287
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,616


Political Matrix
E: 2.77, S: -3.39

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2006, 04:53:29 PM »
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?

The internment, adultery, court packing, paying farmers not to grow crops while the nation starved and many of the New Deal programs should have been temporary, if implemented at all.
Logged
Emsworth
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,054


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2006, 05:10:13 PM »
Roosevelt was the epitome of horribleness, for reasons I have stated at length before.
Logged
dazzleman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,777
Political Matrix
E: 1.88, S: 1.59

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2006, 05:25:53 PM »
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?

The internment, adultery, court packing, paying farmers not to grow crops while the nation starved and many of the New Deal programs should have been temporary, if implemented at all.

Interesting.  I disagree with a lot of his domestic policies and believe he prolonged the depression through policies that were more geared to soaking the successful than actually getting the economy moving again.

But he was very courageous in sticking his neck out to support the British against the Nazis before the country was really ready.  He took huge political risks, and could easily have done otherwise, and stood by while Britain sunk.  Had he done that, world history would have taken a major turn for the worse.

If you're going to hold adultery against him, what about Clinton?  And Kennedy?  As far as the internment goes, I don't think it can be evaluated outside the context of the time, which was that much of the Pacific fleet had been destroyed, and the west coast was thought to be largely defenseless.  That internment is in no way comparable to what the Germans did, regrettable though it may have been.

You sound very much like a Republican nini.  Remind me why you were ever a Democrat...Tongue
Logged
DanielX
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,126
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2006, 05:34:16 PM »
A balance of the two.
Logged
David S
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,250


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2006, 05:37:42 PM »
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?

The internment, adultery, court packing, paying farmers not to grow crops while the nation starved and many of the New Deal programs should have been temporary, if implemented at all.

Excellent points nini.

Also, at that time, gold was legal currency,and was regarded as a true storehouse of wealth but FDR confiscated the gold from all American citizens and gave them paper currency instead. He then devalued the paper dollar from 1/20 of an ounce of gold to 1/35, thereby depriving them of 40% of their wealth. That move was blantantly unconstitutional and dishonest as hell too.

He enacted wage and price controls which are also unconstitutional.

He raised the top tax rate from 63% to over 90% and then attempted to raise it by executive order to 100% of any income over $20,000. Fortunately congress told him to get lost on that last one.

In my estimation he took us further down the path to socialism than any president before or since.
Logged
Dave from Michigan
9iron768
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,298
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2006, 06:15:50 PM »
Horrible person
Logged
nini2287
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,616


Political Matrix
E: 2.77, S: -3.39

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2006, 06:57:00 PM »
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?

The internment, adultery, court packing, paying farmers not to grow crops while the nation starved and many of the New Deal programs should have been temporary, if implemented at all.
If you're going to hold adultery against him, what about Clinton?  And Kennedy?

Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 05:25:53 PM
You sound very much like a Republican nini.  Remind me why you were ever a Democrat...Tongue

Good question.  When I first learned a significant amount about FDR in 10th grade history, I actually thought that he didn't go far enough.
Logged
○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└
jfern
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 53,735


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2006, 07:14:16 PM »
FF, but not as much of a FF as his wife.
Logged
opebo
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 47,009


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2006, 09:30:49 PM »
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 20, 2006, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: nini2287 on February 20, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Some of his ideas were good, but nevertheless a horrible person.

Really nini?  Could you explain why you view FDR as a horrible person?

...adultery...

Hahaha!  You are an insane. 
Logged
PBrunsel
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,537


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2006, 09:33:49 PM »
He was a horrible person because he was such a smug billionaire "populist".
Logged
opebo
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 47,009


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2006, 10:26:00 PM »
Quote from: PBrunsel on February 20, 2006, 09:33:49 PM
He was a horrible person because he was such a smug billionaire "populist".

At least he had noblesse oblige.  That is your only hope, worker, unless you all rise up and slit their throats (unlikely).
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.052 seconds with 13 queries.