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Question: Should businesses have the right to restrict or ban the use of firearms on their property?
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Republican -Yes
 
#2
Republican -No
 
#3
Democrat -Yes
 
#4
Democrat -No
 
#5
independent/third party -Yes
 
#6
independent/third party -No
 
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« on: February 22, 2006, 07:02:39 PM »

Recently, Republicans in the Virginia House of Delegates have pushed bills to further expand gun rights for individuals, allowing citizens to carry firearms not only into restaraunts, but also into the work-place, and on parking lots.

Given the choice, which should have precedence over the other?
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Gun Rights Bills Move Forward in Va. Legislature

By Rosalind S. Helderman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 19, 2006; Page C01


RICHMOND -- Midway through the Virginia legislative session, the House of Delegates has sent to the state Senate a series of bills that would make it easier for residents to acquire and carry guns, including a measure that would prohibit companies from banning guns in their parking lots.

The exercise is an annual ritual, as supporters of gun rights urge less restrictive and, they say, more uniform state rules, and opponents counter that their proposals would endanger public safety.

The parking lot bill, part of a nationwide push by the National Rifle Association, would require businesses, including restaurants, to allow employees and customers to keep guns in their cars on company property. Many U.S. businesses have enacted rules banning guns in cars in response to workplace shootings.

Another bill would prohibit the governor from restricting gun rights during any kind of state emergency. Its sponsor said he was disturbed by reports from New Orleans that suggested that law enforcement officers were confiscating weapons from law-abiding citizens in response to violence following Hurricane Katrina. A third measure would make it harder for local governments to pass ordinances regulating hunting.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2006, 07:05:02 PM »

Yes, but only for private property.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2006, 07:29:53 PM »

Yes (R). No-one is entitled to do whatever he pleases on someone else's property.
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Gabu
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2006, 07:31:59 PM »

Gun rights should mean that you have the right to be able to buy a gun, not that you have the right to have it with you 24 hours a day regardless of what other people would like to happen on their own property.

Allowing businesses to forbid the existence of guns on their premises is not in any way a restriction of gun rights.
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Bandit3 the Worker
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2006, 11:44:30 PM »

Big Business is against it, so I support it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 11:48:05 PM »

Big Business is against it, so I support it.

You support making it so private people can't decide whether or not guns are allowed on their property?

If "Big Business" was against Bush, would you support him?
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 11:51:19 PM »

You support making it so private people can't decide whether or not guns are allowed on their property?

I wasn't referring to private individuals, but large businesses.

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You bet I would! But Big Business supports the idiot.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 07:46:24 AM »

You support making it so private people can't decide whether or not guns are allowed on their property?

I wasn't referring to private individuals, but large businesses.

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You bet I would! But Big Business supports the idiot.

But this affects both individuals and small businesses too - they own property as well, you know. It's rather foolish to oppose or support something simply because a group you generally disagree with does the opposite. If big business supports keeping murder illegal, does that mean you oppose keeping it illegal? Not unless you're an idiot. You should use your brain and oppose or support something because of it's merits and faults, not simply because a group you agree or disagree with has an opinion on it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 07:49:51 AM »

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You bet I would! But Big Business supports the idiot.

That's rather strange.  Why would you let something you hate dictate your beliefs and how you run your life?  Can you really hate something all that much if you follow its every lead?
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2006, 09:35:56 AM »

Yes.......and I won't do business with those business. (personal right).
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2006, 09:39:22 AM »

Gun rights should mean that you have the right to be able to
shoot your boss dead.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2006, 12:58:27 PM »

property rights
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2006, 05:40:37 PM »

Gun rights should mean that you have the right to be able to
shoot your boss dead.

That too. Smiley
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