Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Oh, you meant the War thing. Yea that is nuts.

[oakvale]

As elaborated on in my office thread, I have some real life issues I need to attend to, and will be taking a leave of absence from Senate duties for one week. I'd particularly like to apologise for the damage this may do to the Judiciary Committee, but things are kind of rough at the moment - I won't go into it but suffice to say I don't have the energy or time to commit to the task at hand right now.

If after a week things have not settled down I will be resigning as Senator.

[HPoirot]

I have a question on the ratification decentralization amendment. At first I read it as a regional legislature had to choose one method.

3. Regions shall be free to ratify Amendments passed by the Senate multiple times, in any of the following ways, chosen by their legislature:
3a. Approval by vote of the Region's lawmaking body, or
3c. Public referendum wherein each citizen shall vote via public post, in a length determined by the Region's lawmaking process.

I took it as choosing one option and sticking to it for every amendment. It could also be the legislature chooses one option every time an amendment comes up depending on the topic. (the first time they choose legilsature vote, second time public vote, third time public vote, fourth legislature vote). That could slow the processus of ratification if the legislature makes a choice every time there is an amendment or if the legislature is inactive.

Is it correct the regional legislatures can choose the method of ratification case by case or can make a formal choice of method if they wish.

I was also wondering if the regions have total control on determining the requirements for passage, like simple majority or a super majority, or even rules like a majority of voters registered by the three main parties in the region. 

[Governor Scott]

I have a question on the ratification decentralization amendment. At first I read it as a regional legislature had to choose one method.

3. Regions shall be free to ratify Amendments passed by the Senate multiple times, in any of the following ways, chosen by their legislature:
3a. Approval by vote of the Region's lawmaking body, or
3c. Public referendum wherein each citizen shall vote via public post, in a length determined by the Region's lawmaking process.

I took it as choosing one option and sticking to it for every amendment. It could also be the legislature chooses one option every time an amendment comes up depending on the topic. (the first time they choose legilsature vote, second time public vote, third time public vote, fourth legislature vote). That could slow the processus of ratification if the legislature makes a choice every time there is an amendment or if the legislature is inactive.

Is it correct the regional legislatures can choose the method of ratification case by case or can make a formal choice of method if they wish.

I was also wondering if the regions have total control on determining the requirements for passage, like simple majority or a super majority, or even rules like a majority of voters registered by the three main parties in the region. 

I didn't sponsor the amendment, but I think your interpretation is correct.  Regions should have full autonomy on the ratification process, whether it's case by case or standardized for all amendment votes.

[HPoirot]

Thank you for making the effort of replying even if you were not someone at the federal level  proposing or voting on the matter.

[Governor Scott]

Does anybody know if Atlasia has established an official retirement plan for seniors, or is that already covered by the Social Security Act, the basics of which I assume resemble the real life version's?

[Senator Napoleon]

Does anybody know if Atlasia has established an official retirement plan for seniors, or is that already covered by the Social Security Act, the basics of which I assume resemble the real life version's?

http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Comprehensive_Social_Security_Reform_Act

[Governor Scott]

Thanks, Napoleon.

Another question (which I tried asking Snowguy, but his thread hasn't been updated since early March, so I doubt he'll see it...): What percentage of rural communities in Atlasia are without modern electricity sources?  Nothing on the wiki seems to indicate that we have a TVA or something like that.

[Senator MaxQue]

If someone may want to put that in a better place, fell free to do it/indicate me where.
List of Senatorial successions, per the Proportional Representation Act:

41th Senate:
Senator #1: Lief (JCP)
Senator #2: Bacon King (JCP)
Senator #3: Dallasfan (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

42th Senate (a three seat by-election happened):
Senator #1: Lief (JCP), then Oakvale (JCP)
Senator #2: Bacon King (JCP), then Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Dallasfan (Pop), then Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

43th Senate:
Senator #1: Oakvale (JCP)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

44th Senate:
Senator #1: Oakvale (JCP), then JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

45th Senate (supposing senate agree with the UDL-JCP (left-left) and Pop-CID (right-center) pairings:
Senator #1: JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Homelycooking (CID), then Kalwejt (JCP)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: BRTD (JCP)

46th Senate:
Senator #1: JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Nathan (JCP)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (JCP)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: BRTD (JCP)

47th Senate (no clear political matches):
Senator #1: Junkie (RPP, then Ind)
Senator #2: Nathan (JCP, than Labor)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (JCP), then Polnut (JCP, then Liberal)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (RPP, then Whig)
Senator #5: 20RP12 (SPA)

48th Senate (no clear political matches between (Ind and Liberal) and (Labor and Whig):
Senator #1: Junkie (Ind), then Alfred F. Jones (Labor)
Senator #2: Nathan (Labor)
Senator #3: Oakvale (Liberal), then Pingvin (Whig)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

49th Senate (seat 2 is the longest Labor-held, indies are in alphabetical order):
Senator #1: AndrewCT (Ind)
Senator #2: seatown (Labor)
Senator #3: Wormyguy (Ind)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

50th Senate:
Senator #1: AndrewCT (Ind)
Senator #2: seatown (Labor)
Senator #3: Wormyguy (Ind), then vacant.
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

51th Senate:
Senator #1: Bacon King (Liberal), then vacant
Senator #2: Marokai Blue (Labor)
Senator #3: NVTownsend (Liberal), then vacant
Senator #4: Hagrid (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig), then Franlz (Liberal)

52th Senate:
Senator #1: Simfan (TPP)
Senator #2: Marokai Blue (Labor)
Senator #3: Snowstalker (Labor)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Whig), then (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (Liberal), then (TPP)

53th Senate (Labor keeps its longest held seat, no clear ideological fits (Lab-TPP and Lib-Fed)):
Senator #1: Mr. X (Liberal), then (TPP)
Senator #2: Barnes (Labor), then Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Spamage (Fed)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (TPP)

54th Senate:
Senator #1: Mr. X (TPP), then (Ind)
Senator #2: Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Spamage (Fed), then Clarence (Fed)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (TPP), than MattFromVT (Fed)

55th Senate:
Senator #1: Mr. X (Ind)
Senator #2: Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (Liberal)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: MaxQue (Lab)

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Senate_History

Nix has it the other way around in here.

It really only matters with regards to you changing a predecessors vote and I think we have already gotten past all such potentiallities without controversy on the matter.

[Senator MaxQue]

http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Senate_History

Nix has it the other way around in here.

It really only matters with regards to you changing a predecessors vote and I think we have already gotten past all such potentiallities without controversy on the matter.

Well, it's not when the list will be 20 Senates long than we will need to fix it, as it will quite tenious.

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well I was speaking in terms of Senate functionality, not the wiki consideration. But yeah, it would be advisable to resolve this sooner than latter.

[Speaker Superique]

Where it is the Financial Tax that Mr. Marokai has proposed during the campaign?

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Can you be more specific? Is something missing from the introduction thread?

[HPoirot]

I think Superique is refering to the 0.1% stock transaction tax that was in the President's campaign platform.

[Senator MaxQue]

Well, the President can't introduce bills, only Senators can. I would suggest you to lobby a Senator to introduce a bill on the issue.

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the President posted it in his thread it should have been introduced. If one got missed, I would have anticipated that Marokai would bitch about it until it got introduced and I would gladly introduce it for him just to ease his state of mind. I know I introduced some of them, myself like the Parties Amendment and the Libertas thing.

Maxy you are tight with the President, why don't you contact him about this and if there is a stituation here, get it introduced for him.

[Senator MaxQue]

If the President posted it in his thread it should have been introduced. If one got missed, I would have anticipated that Marokai would bitch about it until it got introduced and I would gladly introduce it for him just to ease his state of mind. I know I introduced some of them, myself like the Parties Amendment and the Libertas thing.

Maxy you are tight with the President, why don't you contact him about this and if there is a stituation here, get it introduced for him.

The President is currently on leave from Atlasia, you're quite aware of that.
Anyways, I don't remember any bill on that subject being posted. It was in the campaign platform of the Marokai/Duke ticket, through, but no bill has been published on the subject for the moment.

[Speaker Superique]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was talking about the bill that President Marokai posted on his platform :/

[Senator Napoleon]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was talking about the bill that President Marokai posted on his platform :/

Well, the President hadn't realized that was something I already did when I was President.

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the President posted it in his thread it should have been introduced. If one got missed, I would have anticipated that Marokai would bitch about it until it got introduced and I would gladly introduce it for him just to ease his state of mind. I know I introduced some of them, myself like the Parties Amendment and the Libertas thing.

Maxy you are tight with the President, why don't you contact him about this and if there is a stituation here, get it introduced for him.

The President is currently on leave from Atlasia, you're quite aware of that.
Anyways, I don't remember any bill on that subject being posted. It was in the campaign platform of the Marokai/Duke ticket, through, but no bill has been published on the subject for the moment.

Actually I just assumed Duke had finally done away with him and seized control of the country.

[Senator Kalwejt]

I'm sorry, but as it's been a while since my last Senate tenure, do things are always that slow? It's seems we're in a very slow mode.

[Senator MaxQue]

I'm sorry, but as it's been a while since my last Senate tenure, do things are always that slow? It's seems we're in a very slow mode.

I think than the PPT is having computer problems, which cause delays. Indeed, it's very slow.

[Senator Kalwejt]

I'm sorry, but as it's been a while since my last Senate tenure, do things are always that slow? It's seems we're in a very slow mode.

I think than the PPT is having computer problems, which cause delays. Indeed, it's very slow.

That's a shame, since Yankee is basically holding the Senate for years.