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« on: February 24, 2006, 09:09:13 PM »

If we could trade law like fantasy leagues trade players, would conservatives do this trade?

Overturn of Roe v. Wade

in exchange for

 single payer universal health care run by the federal government and a constitutional amendment legalizing marijana.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2006, 09:11:26 PM »

**** no. But in exchange for just a constitutional amendment legalizing marijuana, yeah.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2006, 09:13:01 PM »

What about this...

Overturn Roe v Wade

for

Affirmative Action w/ Quotas and legalize pot.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2006, 09:13:48 PM »

What about this...

Overturn Roe v Wade

for

Affirmative Action w/ Quotas and legalize pot.

But I don't want AA with quotas!

And we should make a league on this board where we trade articles of law.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2006, 09:16:13 PM »

How about :

Roe v Wade

for

You guys winning one or two elections (for once).
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2006, 09:17:49 PM »

Depends how big of a win.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2006, 09:19:48 PM »

Roe v Wade

for

You guys winning one or two elections (for once).

They get to keep Roe v. Wade in exchange for their winning an election or two?
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2006, 09:22:12 PM »

What about this...

Overturn Roe v Wade

for

Affirmative Action w/ Quotas and legalize pot.

Definitely not worth it for the Democrats.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2006, 09:24:37 PM »

What about this...

Overturn Roe v Wade

for

Affirmative Action w/ Quotas and legalize pot.

Definitely not worth it for the Democrats.

Agreed.  Roe v Wade is our bargaining chip.  Health care and pot is just a starting ground for what we would get. 

LOL I just thought of a funny one:

Overturn of Lawrence v Texas

for

Legal gay marriage
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2006, 09:28:24 PM »

How about :

Roe v Wade

for

You guys winning one or two elections (for once).

Two wins plus several suspicious deaths and you have a deal.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2006, 09:31:52 PM »

Overturn of Roe v. Wade

in exchange for

 single payer universal health care run by the federal government and a constitutional amendment legalizing marijana.

I'd go for that, except the question is addressed to conservatives.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2006, 11:44:35 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2006, 12:00:12 PM by Demi-Senator Bono »

To democrats:
Constitutional Ammendment Legalizing Gay MArriage
vs.
Repeal of all federal firearms laws
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2006, 11:56:48 AM »

If we could trade law like fantasy leagues trade players, would conservatives do this trade?

Overturn of Roe v. Wade

in exchange for

 single payer universal health care run by the federal government and a constitutional amendment legalizing marijana.

I'd go for this -though I don't know whether the conservatives here would consider me a conservative.  I already know the liberals here do.  Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2006, 12:57:05 PM »

If we could trade law like fantasy leagues trade players, would conservatives do this trade?

Overturn of Roe v. Wade

in exchange for

 single payer universal health care run by the federal government and a constitutional amendment legalizing marijana.

Oh hell no.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2006, 01:04:36 PM »

To democrats:
Constitutional Ammendment Legalizing Gay MArriage
vs.
Repeal of all federal firearms laws

I'd take that for sure.
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2006, 01:05:08 PM »

Overturn Roe v Wade and ban all abortions.

in exchange for

Gay marriage.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2006, 01:10:36 PM »

How about overturn Roe v. Wade in exchange for an abolishment of all strip club regulations and strip clubs popping up everywhere? Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2006, 09:11:50 PM »

How about :

Roe v Wade

for

You guys winning one or two elections (for once).

Don't think that's the reason Mr. Dixiecrat.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006, 01:52:09 AM »

Overturn Roe v Wade and ban all abortions.

in exchange for

Gay marriage.

Sounds perfect!
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2006, 06:23:13 PM »

If we could trade law like fantasy leagues trade players, would conservatives do this trade?

Overturn of Roe v. Wade

in exchange for

 single payer universal health care run by the federal government and a constitutional amendment legalizing marijana.

No.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2006, 12:43:19 AM »

That would be a terrible trade.

We overturn Roe only to realize later that overturning that case doesn't actually ban abortion, and then we get stuck with a constitutional right to weed and Canada's health care system.

That's like when the Clevelan Cavs traded a 1st round pick to Boston for Jiri Welch, then four months later traded Welch to Milwaukee for a 2nd round pick, thereby in effect trading a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick straight away.

Only Isiah Thomas would make a trade like the one Boss proposed.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2006, 07:01:30 AM »

Overturn Roe v Wade and ban all abortions.

in exchange for

Gay marriage.

Come on, i'm sure we can squeeze more into that. Alongside gay marriage, a national pharmaceutical benefits scheme. I'd be willing to accept one just for pensioners, as long as the Republicans could be guaranteed to lose control of either the house or senate in 2006. Not picky which one, though.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2006, 07:29:05 AM »

The more you offer something up as a chip, the less valuable it becomes, because you signal that it is not really that important to you to begin with-- so why should the other side sacrifice so much to take it from you?

The same argument goes for all those Democrats waiting with baded breath for Roe v Wade to be overturned so that the supposed "massive backlash" will sweep the Democrats into office... while in the next breath reassuring themselves that overturning Roe v Wade would not actually change anything.

Both cannot be true.

And where is this supposed "massive backlash" to come from? If Democrats do not care for the ruling now, why should Democrats and independents and Republicans care for it after it is overturned?

These are only rationalizations for one's own equivocation. One should not fail to notice, first of all, that a ruling may be modified without being overturned. If one doesn't like the fact that Roe protects late-term abortions, one should realize that the recognition of the central holding or Roe-- that the right to privacy applies at some stage to the womb-- need not be changed at all though the stage of pregnancy at which the right is protected may change, indeed as happened in Casey. Second of all, law is largely a matter of argumentation. The Constitution may not mention the word privacy, but neither does it mention the minimum wage-- or, for that matter, judicial review. Which particular Supreme Court cases become more controversial than others reside largely not on the legal merits of the case, but on the political factors surrounding it. Taken together, I see no need for such a level of equivocation on Roe v Wade except for doctrinaire pro-life Democrats who believe that life begins at conception.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2006, 08:23:38 AM »

The minimum wage is unconstitutional. Judicial review is part of the original meaning of the "judicial power."
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