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Ben.
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« on: February 25, 2006, 12:15:39 PM »



This should be a notice to the Democratic Party that pro-life candidates should be nominated in moderate states.


That's some faulty logic there. John Hickenlooper, who is firmly pro-choice, would be a stronger candidate than Ritter.

I also read that Ritter assured Democrats that he won't criminalize abortion as governor. Democrats did not get fully behind him until he made that promise.

By the way, Colorado is a strongly pro-choice state (61% to 34% in last SurveyUSA poll).


True it’s a libertarian leaning state but Ritter and Casey are both examples of strong pro-life Democratic candidates who the party should have been more ready to support in the past… thankfully it seems that the almost fascist attitude of some on the far left of the party which saw Robert Casey bared from speaking at the ’92 DNC and other pro-life Dems marginalised and discriminated against is receding these days, a good thing for the Democratic Party.

I wish abortion wasn’t politicised as it is, not in that it shouldn’t be an issue but its just destructive for one party to be 90% pro-life and the other 90% pro-choice and each largely intolerant of the other… its one of the many issues which is destroying civil politics in the USA.  
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Ben.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2006, 02:27:45 PM »



True it’s a libertarian leaning state but Ritter and Casey are both examples of strong pro-life Democratic candidates who the party should have been more ready to support in the past… thankfully it seems that the almost fascist attitude of some on the far left of the party which saw Robert Casey bared from speaking at the ’92 DNC


Oh god, not this lie again. Casey was left off the DNC Speaker list in 1992 because he didn't support Clinton for president, not because he was pro-life.

But keep repeating that lie if it makes you feel better. And that "fascist" comment makes you look like a real jackass.


I wish abortion wasn’t politicised as it is, not in that it shouldn’t be an issue but its just destructive for one party to be 90% pro-life and the other 90% pro-choice and each largely intolerant of the other… its one of the many issues which is destroying civil politics in the USA.


It is an issue that affects the civil rights of 51% of the population! If you were a woman, would you want the government controlling your reproductive decisions??  I think its hard for most men to really understand and empathize because it doesn't directly affect them.


It not just about a “woman’s reproductive rights” (how very detached that sounds)… its about the rights of the potential human being a woman is carrying in her womb and how the rights of both the mothers and that child can be accommodated.

Simply because an individual has the power of life and death over another does not mean that they have the right to exercise that right without references to the rights of that individual.

Of course abortion is a difficult issue! The relative rights of a collection of cells in a woman’s womb in the early part of a pregnancy can seem to have a far weaker claim to civil rights when compared with a recognisable and developing child in the later stages of a pregnancy.

If the issue where simply over a woman’s right to do what she wanted with her body then by that logic right up until birth abortion would be permissible, by a similar logic an individual would also be entitled to do what ever they please to their body regardless of its effect on others, drug abuse, multination etc… the logic of the argument that “it’s a woman’s body” is flawed.                   
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