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« on: May 23, 2004, 08:59:01 am »
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I just took the Political Compass again today:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21

I have moved 7 points to the right economically and 5 points to the right socially in six months.

Someone help me!  I'll be a Rockefeller Republican in a few months.

PS: Don't you think for ONE SECOND that I like Bush
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2004, 09:06:40 am »
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Hah, you're to my right now on social issues and I think you'll soon be to my right on economy...it's time to join the UAC, dude. Wink

Or at least, welcome to the moderate fold. Smiley
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This place really has become a cesspool of degenerate whores...

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2004, 09:12:32 am »
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I AM NOT GOING TO THE UAC
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2004, 09:15:23 am »
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I AM NOT GOING TO THE UAC

Hehehehe...I know, I just wnted to get a reactino from you. Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2004, 03:16:14 pm »
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I just took the Political Compass again today:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21

I have moved 7 points to the right economically and 5 points to the right socially in six months.

Someone help me!  I'll be a Rockefeller Republican in a few months.

PS: Don't you think for ONE SECOND that I like Bush

it's called growing up.  welcome to the club.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2004, 03:16:47 pm »
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Angus,

Did you read the last line of my post?
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2004, 03:18:40 pm »
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Some people are ideological constants, Angus.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2004, 03:19:01 pm »
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think I like the bastard?

think I'll vote for him?

(before you answer, reflect on the fact that two very different questions may have two very different answers.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2004, 03:21:04 pm »
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I think your answers are no and yes, while mine are no and no
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2004, 03:22:35 pm »
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I liked the question about voting history.  Reminds me that I never liked any of those nasty bastards I voted for.  Makes it easy to remember that you don't have to like somebody to vote for him.  Only one I've ever voted for in my life that I actually really respected was Ralph Nader.  Dukakis and Clinton and Bush are trolls.  
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2004, 03:31:07 pm »
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I just took the Political Compass again today:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21

I have moved 7 points to the right economically and 5 points to the right socially in six months.

Someone help me!  I'll be a Rockefeller Republican in a few months.

PS: Don't you think for ONE SECOND that I like Bush

it's called growing up.  welcome to the club.

"If a man is not a socialist in his youth, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 30 he has no head." So said Georges Clemenceau (1841–1929), French statesman, journalist, editor, and French premier 1906–09, 1917–20, and one-time radical.

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2004, 03:43:40 pm »
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I just took the Political Compass again today:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21

I have moved 7 points to the right economically and 5 points to the right socially in six months.

Someone help me!  I'll be a Rockefeller Republican in a few months.

PS: Don't you think for ONE SECOND that I like Bush

Boss Tweed,

What actual positions of yours have gotten more conservative?
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2004, 04:16:11 pm »
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Boss Tweed,

What actual positions of yours have gotten more conservative?

-Opposition to second and third trimester abortions
-Support of Parental Notificaton Laws
-Much More Free-Marker
-Realizing the death penalty is (sometimes) necessary, but it is still overused
-More to come
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2004, 04:23:30 pm »
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Boss Tweed,

What actual positions of yours have gotten more conservative?

-Opposition to second and third trimester abortions
-Support of Parental Notificaton Laws
-Much More Free-Marker
-Realizing the death penalty is (sometimes) necessary, but it is still overused
-More to come

Is this my future?

*cry tear sob*

However, people here would be happy to know they have made me more conservative on some issues Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2004, 06:06:40 pm »
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Come on, Boss, you can do it, man. Get a blue avatar - I dare you. Smiley

Conservatism beckons...

Resistance is futile.

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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2004, 07:02:59 pm »
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Don’t Worry Boss at my first election back in 2000, I was a died in the wool lefty, Hell I seriously thought for a while that Communism was a viable and reasonable thing to strive for… that said I have never ever lost my commitment to the belief in cooperation and community that is at the centre of all centre-left thought. Back in 2000 I did consider voting for Nader, but in the end voted for Gore.

My belief in community also developed through my faith into a belief in obligations and responsibilities. Now I’m not a radically religious guy, but I go to church and I do pretty much believe the whole darn thing. But my outlook on things really was affected by my faith. And reading some work by the pollster Philip Gould and the political philosopher Anthony Giddon also changed my rather blinkered view of the “third way” political philosophy, it was not that I became concerned with my party getting elected its that I began to see that sticking to outmoded and inflexible polices was a mistake that needs and demands of your supporters change and that further more the needs of society change, not simply what society thinks constitutes its needs, but what is the best policy to adopt to leave people better off, changes over time and extremist and zealots really don’t realise this.

Also if a party fails to move with these changes in the needs and aspirations of its base it becomes a party that ceases to represent its bases of natural supporters and comes to represent only ideological activists, and worst of all its comes to equate activist with its base of support, this is what happened to the British Labour Party and to a lesser extent to the Democratic Party and it was quite simply wrong.

This was when some of the allergies of the left to things like tax-cuts and private business and faith based initiatives really began to start to seem absurd and unwarranted. Still I seem to have pretty much settled and my core belief in social justice, the importance of community and that there is a positive role for government remain unchanged, the means by which I think we can achieve these things have changed radically but the basic principle endures and I think the changes in my attitudes where for the best. I mean I feel pretty secure in my my political belifes these days which i never felt when i was on the far-left. But i think most people for a short while at least turn to the hard left.  
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2004, 09:40:54 pm »
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I was a militant Marxist from age 9 until age 14.  When I was 15 I was a centrist, and by the time I turned 16 I was further right than anyone I've ever heard of.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2004, 06:53:15 pm »
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I liked the question about voting history.  Reminds me that I never liked any of those nasty bastards I voted for.  Makes it easy to remember that you don't have to like somebody to vote for him.  Only one I've ever voted for in my life that I actually really respected was Ralph Nader.  Dukakis and Clinton and Bush are trolls.  
Did you vote for Nader in 2000? Not surprising really.

My views are moving like a wave all the time. During these few months periods I move from the centre to the far right and back. Right now my position is pretty conservative.


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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2004, 06:57:42 pm »
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Bah. "Conservatism" means nothing these days.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2004, 08:06:13 pm »
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There are many Democrats that are on the right on the political compass.  In the US primaries section, only Kucinich and Sharpton are on the left.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2004, 09:10:23 pm »
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There are many Democrats that are on the right on the political compass.  In the US primaries section, only Kucinich and Sharpton are on the left.

Huh??

Everyone but Peroutka is on the left.
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2004, 04:06:28 pm »
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There are many Democrats that are on the right on the political compass.  In the US primaries section, only Kucinich and Sharpton are on the left.

Huh??

Everyone but Peroutka is on the left.

He's talking about the Political Compass graph...

And no, Bush is the most right-wing of any major world leader Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2004, 04:08:49 pm »
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i guess i'm weird i keep drifting to the left as i get older.
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2004, 04:23:58 pm »
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Being that I am in college I am moving toward the left. Still a Republican, though.
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