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Question: Is the PATRIOT Act, in its enacted form, an infringement of civil liberties?
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« on: February 28, 2006, 07:41:37 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 08:27:54 AM »



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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 08:49:34 AM »

We need to abolish the national security state completely. Remove the requiremetn to give ID o na flight if its a domestic one.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2006, 09:05:44 AM »

We need to abolish the national security state completely. Remove the requiremetn to give ID o na flight if its a domestic one.

I'm just the opposite.  I think we need to have a unified/standardized National ID card.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2006, 09:20:23 AM »

As far as I'm concerned big government does not have the right at all to know anything about the citizens that the citizens don't want them knowing. Now spying on people who are non-citizens I can live with but not spying on citizens.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2006, 09:22:26 AM »

Now spying on people who are non-citizens I can live with but not spying on citizens.

I agree with that for the most part.  Fortunately we haven't crossed that line yet.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 09:25:57 AM »

Now spying on people who are non-citizens I can live with but not spying on citizens.

I agree with that for the most part.  Fortunately we haven't crossed that line yet.
Bascially if you'd said a unified national ID for foreigners who are here on work visas/students I'd have agreed with you.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 09:37:36 AM »

Now spying on people who are non-citizens I can live with but not spying on citizens.

I agree with that for the most part.  Fortunately we haven't crossed that line yet.
Bascially if you'd said a unified national ID for foreigners who are here on work visas/students I'd have agreed with you.

We can do that too.  Some states already have different card designs for citizens and residents, as well as the national immigration cards.  However, if you standardize the whole "card" aspect, the confusion between 50 different state card designs as well as immigrant cards and replace it with one or two cards.  The system will be administered by the state, but controlled and reviewed by the national level, so the chances of one person having multiple cards (or someone stealing someone elses SSN) would be greatly reduced and quickly identified in a national database. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 10:43:00 AM »

No, it isn't -and if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. 
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