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Question: What should be the penalty for the company?  For the executive?
#1
The company should be given a public subsidy to cover the costs of complying with the law
 
#2
The company should be given a warning
 
#3
Nothing.  If enough people die the invisible force of the marketplace will correct the problem
 
#4
The company should be assessed a small fine
 
#5
The company should be assessed a large fine to compansate the dead and injured
 
#6
The company should be fined more than the savings they got for breaking the law
 
#7
The company should be 'executed' (shut down)
 
#8
All companies in that industry should be nationalized to prevent further problems
 
#9
All companies should be socialized to prevent these problems
 
#10
The executive should get a raise and a promotion
 
#11
Nothing, individuals should bear no personal responsibility when making decisions on behalf of a corporation
 
#12
Nothing.  There's nothing wrong with violating safety laws
 
#13
The executive should be given a warning no to do it again
 
#14
The executive should be assessed a small fine
 
#15
The executive should be assessed a large fine and fired
 
#16
The executive should recieve jail time (less than one year)
 
#17
The executive should recieve prison time (more than one year)
 
#18
The executive should be imprisoned for life
 
#19
The executive should be executed
 
#20
All executives should be executed
 
#21
Die. Die.  Everyone must die.  Mwa Hhahahahaha
 
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Citizen James
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« on: March 02, 2006, 05:33:16 PM »

Say, just for a matter of debate, that an executive at a company finds that by breaking a safety law, he can save a lot of money for the company.  The violation will probably result in serious injury or death for a few customers, but most of the client base will be OK.

After a few untimely deaths and maimings they get caught, and seized company records show that the company executives knew they were breaking the law, and the hazards to life and limb of doing so.

Two part question (hence two answers) - what should happen to the company, and to the executive who made this decision.  I have tried to include a wide list of answers - ranging from kleptocratic to communist.

Choice wisely.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 05:43:04 PM »

The Company should be heavily fined (as per option 6) and the executive should receive heavy prison time.  If someone was actually injured or killed, a life setence or the death penalty would be applicable.

Down to the corrupt oppressers of the people.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2006, 06:13:05 PM »

The last one. I voted "Die. Die.  Everyone must die.  Mwa Hhahahahaha"
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2006, 12:37:31 AM »

If there is willfull negligence I would consider it first degree murder and death should come swift.

For crimes such as what Enron's management did by cooking the books and destroying thousands of people's pensions: also death.  There is simply no excuse to ruining so many people's lives.

In fact, any corporate crime that costs say, $1,000,000 or more, death is an appropiate solution.  Adjust for CPI if you want.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2006, 01:15:25 AM »

The most important thing is that the company should be taken away from its owners with no payment.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2006, 08:40:10 AM »

The most important thing is that the company should be taken away from its owners with no payment.
That's not right. And its not legal. Even the eminent domain clause which people like you who advocate nationalizing companies like using mandates that you pay them.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2006, 01:09:23 PM »

The most important thing is that the company should be taken away from its owners with no payment.
What if the shareholders had no knowledge of what was being done?  It is much fairer to execute the management.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 01:14:54 PM »

The executive in question should be fined, fired, and receive time for manslaughter. I would also say the company needs to compensate the victims, but I could only pick 2 options.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2006, 01:23:55 PM »

The executive in question should be fined, fired, and receive time for manslaughter. I would also say the company needs to compensate the victims, but I could only pick 2 options.

Pretty much so.

John, off topic,  I'm looking for a little help over at https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=37272.0
with info regarding Libertarian candidates, any chance you could give me some help?
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