58% of Americans oppose South Dakota abortion law

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Not even a majority of Republicans support it:



This just shows that they are NOT in the mainstream on this issue.

[MODU]

Not even a majority of Republicans support it:



This just shows that they are NOT in the mainstream on this issue.

That's because it's too strict.  Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.  If it did, I could easily see the support being over 50%.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Except all the laws being proposed in other states are similar to it.

This also severely rebukes people who claim the Democrats are not in the mainstream on this issue and should adopt a position similar to the SD law.

[TheresNoMoney]

The majority in this country are pro-choice.

If this was anything other than a Fox News poll, the number of those opposed would be considerably higher.

[Democratic Hawk]

The majority in this country are pro-choice.

So, am I to understand, the majority of Americans support a woman's right to chose to have an abortion with no restrictions whatsoever? I find that hard to believe

I'm minded to agree with MODU, that the reason most Americans oppose the South Dakota law is because it lacks having rape or incest as a specific criteria for permitting abortions

Dave

[MasterJedi]

MODU is right in what he's said.

[Ebowed]

Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.

I don't get the "moderate pro-life" obsession with allowing exceptions for incest.  Incest is a voluntary act, and if it's not, it falls under rape.  What's so special about it?  If two biologically related people of age consent to have sex with each other, why treat it as though it's as bad as rape?

[The Dowager Mod]

This piece of sh**t law actually gives parental rights to those who do the raping.
So not only will a woman be forced to have a child because the law makes no exceptions for that, she is victimized again when "daddy" wants visitation rights.
Complete and utter nonsense.

[TheresNoMoney]

So, am I to understand, the majority of Americans support a woman's right to chose to have an abortion with no restrictions whatsoever? I find that hard to believe

Oh god, not this again.

Same old sh*t on this board.

[TeePee4Prez]

Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.

I don't get the "moderate pro-life" obsession with allowing exceptions for incest.  Incest is a voluntary act, and if it's not, it falls under rape.  What's so special about it?  If two biologically related people of age consent to have sex with each other, why treat it as though it's as bad as rape?

In MOST cases incest is not a voluntary act and from what I can gather coercion.

[dazzleman]

Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.

I don't get the "moderate pro-life" obsession with allowing exceptions for incest.  Incest is a voluntary act, and if it's not, it falls under rape.  What's so special about it?  If two biologically related people of age consent to have sex with each other, why treat it as though it's as bad as rape?

In MOST cases incest is not a voluntary act and from what I can gather coercion.

True, it usually isn't voluntary, especially when it's an adult with a child.

[Ebowed]

Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.

I don't get the "moderate pro-life" obsession with allowing exceptions for incest.  Incest is a voluntary act, and if it's not, it falls under rape.  What's so special about it?  If two biologically related people of age consent to have sex with each other, why treat it as though it's as bad as rape?

In MOST cases incest is not a voluntary act and from what I can gather coercion.

True, it usually isn't voluntary, especially when it's an adult with a child.

Note the bold, gentlemen

[dazzleman]

Needs to make allocations for rape and incest.

I don't get the "moderate pro-life" obsession with allowing exceptions for incest.  Incest is a voluntary act, and if it's not, it falls under rape.  What's so special about it?  If two biologically related people of age consent to have sex with each other, why treat it as though it's as bad as rape?

In MOST cases incest is not a voluntary act and from what I can gather coercion.

True, it usually isn't voluntary, especially when it's an adult with a child.

Note the bold, gentlemen

Thanks for the compliment, Ebowed.  I think the last time I was called addressed in a group as 'gentlemen' was in high school, and it wasn't necessarily sincere or complimentary....

[The Dowager Mod]

[Sam Spade]

MODU's analysis is the correct one.  That's about it.

[Bono]

Most Americans don't live in South Dakota.
But since federalism has long been forgotten by the judiciary...

[A18]

I'm not sure where this infatuation with national majorities comes from.

Oh, and does someone have a source on the visitation rights?

[Alcon]

Whether pro-life or pro-choice, I don't understand why any sane person would support an abortion ban that lacks an exception for rape and gives the rapist visitation rights.

If someone considers any abortion to be murder, then it only follows that these exceptions be disallowed.

[A18]

Rape, maybe. (Is he going to pay child support while in jail?) But visitation rights?

BTW, what the hell does this mean?

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Rape, maybe. (Is he going to pay child support while in jail?) But visitation rights?

BTW, what the hell does this mean?

It means that rape victims get a free coat hanger.

[A18]

What?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Does this law seriously have visitation rights for rapists? Crazy...

[A18]

I'll believe it when someone gives me a source.

[opebo]

I'm not sure where this infatuation with national majorities comes from.

National majorities will be very important if the right to privacy is taken away by the courts.

Given the Republican majority in congress and a Republican president, a national ban is quite likely.

[Brandon H]

Regardless of whether someone supports or opposes abortion, rapists should get no parental rights if their actions result in the conception of a child.

If we want to execute the child the crimes of his father, we should at least execute the father to be fair about it.

I doubt Louisiana's legislatures will pass any bills that are not hurricane related in some way for the near future.