Jimmy Carter for Dean

[Gustaf]

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Yes, 2,200,000,000,000 is alot of money.  National debt just passed seven billion last month.

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Seven trillion.  Not bad in an 11.25 trillion economy.

What, 7 Trillion is over half of an 11.25 Trillion $ Economy. If it was at 3 or 4 Trillion, I would say that is pretty good. But over Half?

I'd say it's pretty bad, especially if it's the net debt. That is at -4% in Sweden and -45% in Finland, I believe. Also, with the huge deficit you're running it's getting worse. On the other hand, you're nowhere near the 100%+ in net debt that countries like Belgium or Italy have. THAT is a huge debt!

[Gustaf]

True and to always put it in perspective we do give a lot of foriegn aid to other countries and have a lot more military expense than most countries.  These are very big costs that other countries don't have.

So Italy and such don't have much of an excuse.

I agree with military expenses, but foreign aid isn't much of an excuse, in percentage of GDP your foreign aid are among the lowest in the rich world.

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speaking of Carter when did an incumbant get beat that badly before that, I'm thinking like Hoover.

It's on the site...but I would guess at Hoover. Taft probably has an alltime record, winning only two states.

[Gustaf]

OK, Taft won only Utah and Vermont, a total of 1.5% of the EC and 23% of the popular vote. I think that is the worse result ever.

[Gustaf]

OK, Taft won only Utah and Vermont, a total of 1.5% of the EC and 23% of the popular vote. I think that is the worse result ever.

Agreed.  Hoover did badly also.

Yep, but 10 times as many EVs as Taft.

[Gustaf]

He won Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont and Delaware. That was it.

what states did hoover still win?

OK, Taft won only Utah and Vermont, a total of 1.5% of the EC and 23% of the popular vote. I think that is the worse result ever.

Agreed.  Hoover did badly also.

Yep, but 10 times as many EVs as Taft.

[Gustaf]

You're welcome. It's all on this very site so it wasn't hard though...

Leip might be saddened by this, we're on the "uselectionatlas site" and this is the second time I point something out to a forum member which was on the site...

interesting i was wondering about IA as that is where he was from, but hit hard by depression. thanks.

He won Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont and Delaware. That was it.

what states did hoover still win?

OK, Taft won only Utah and Vermont, a total of 1.5% of the EC and 23% of the popular vote. I think that is the worse result ever.

Agreed.  Hoover did badly also.

Yep, but 10 times as many EVs as Taft.