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« on: March 17, 2006, 11:31:10 AM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/March%20Dailies/Censure.htm

That's a lot higher than I expected.

Also:

Russ Feingold before they mention he favors censure/after
Favorable 15/32
Unfavorable 23/41
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2006, 03:50:22 PM »

ARG poll has it at 46%

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

Here is a poll from January on impeachment

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

Here are some comparison polls from 1998, remember (if you're old enough) at that time the Lewinsky scandal dominated the headlines for 1 straight year, while the wiretapping story has barely registered in the media, and discussion of it has been largely confined to the chattering elites:

American Viewpoint (R). October 9-13, 1998. N=800 likely voters nationwide.
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"Do you favor or oppose the House of Representatives' action to begin a formal impeachment inquiry against Bill Clinton?"
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 Favor 43   
 Oppose 52   
 Don't know 4


 % % % %
"Last week, the full U.S. House of Representatives voted to authorize the House Judiciary Committee to begin a formal impeachment inquiry of President Clinton. Do you approve or disapprove of Congress beginning an impeachment inquiry?"
 Approve 45 75 22 47
 Disapprove 53 24 75 50
 Don't know/No answer 2 1 3 3

CBS News Poll. October 7-8, 1998. N=997 adults nationwide.
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  ALL Rep. Dem. Ind.
  % % % %
Asked on Oct. 8 only (N=526): "The full U.S. House of Representatives voted to authorize the House Judiciary Committee to begin a formal impeachment inquiry of President Clinton. Do you approve or disapprove of Congress beginning an impeachment inquiry?"
 Approve 46 72 27 51
 Disapprove 50 26 69 46
 Don't know/No answer 4 2 4 3

"Do you think the Judiciary Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives should begin holding hearings to determine whether or not to impeach President Clinton, or don't you think it's necessary?"
 Should begin hearings 31 51 17 30
 Not necessary 65 43 80 66
 Depends (vol.) 1 2 0 1
 Don't know/No answer 3 4 3 3
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2006, 04:23:17 PM »

Notice these poll results all depend on wording.

The impeachment is what kept the Republicans from making gains in 1998.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2006, 04:25:51 PM »

I favor flogging.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 04:38:39 PM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 04:51:21 PM »

Impeachment is a loser issue politically.  Always has been regardless of who's in the executive chair.

Continued talk about this type of garbage is a good way to inflame the Republican base and potentially lose the favorable climate that appears to be emerging for Democrats in 2006.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 05:20:40 PM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.

What perjury?  You had it, on tape, in Clinton's case. He knew what he had done and lied about it under oath.  You don't have it in Bush's case.

But, I agree with Sam Spade.  It's a loser issue.  It will only result in the more Republicans in the House and Senate.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 07:08:58 PM »

Notice these poll results all depend on wording.

The impeachment is what kept the Republicans from making gains in 1998.

Granted, but keep in mind Bush's #'s are in the mid 30's, Clinton's #'s were into the 60's even before Impeachment really started
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 07:38:51 PM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.

The fact that whether Bush lied or not is in serious dispute (and that's putting it lightly) with many Republicans leaning on the "no" side may have something to do with it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 09:02:15 PM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.

The fact that whether Bush lied or not is in serious dispute (and that's putting it lightly) with many Republicans leaning on the "no" side may have something to do with it.

There has been serious dispute on this forum about whether 940 heads and 60 tails is statistically significant.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2006, 12:31:22 AM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.

The fact that whether Bush lied or not is in serious dispute (and that's putting it lightly) with many Republicans leaning on the "no" side may have something to do with it.

There has been serious dispute on this forum about whether 940 heads and 60 tails is statistically significant.

Oh where is the evidence that Bush lied.  You can keep saying, but as pointed out in numerous posts, Jfern saying it doesn't make it true (and the track would there would show it's more likely to be false).

Now, if someone would suggest an investigation of it, I would sign on to that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2006, 12:13:22 PM »



I'm all for the Democrats attempting to censure or impeach Bush.  First of all, it will tie up Congress, keeping them from voting for more pork-laden bills.  Secondly, it will tie up the Democrats messages for the 2006 and 2008 campaigns, minimizing them to just being the ABB party, leaving a huge vacuum in their message to the voting citizens, giving Allen an even larger margin of victory in 2008.  Finally, with the continuation of the GOP control of the federal government, the possibility of a third party forming/gaining ground in 2012 increases (which would be a lovely thing).
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2006, 04:34:15 PM »

The ARG poll showed a plurality in favor. I don't trust Rasmussen much, they had the 2000 NY Senate race as a tie right before the election. Hillary won by 12 points.

The Republicans are massive hypocrites with respect to Clinton's lie vs. all of Bush's lies.

The fact that whether Bush lied or not is in serious dispute (and that's putting it lightly) with many Republicans leaning on the "no" side may have something to do with it.

There has been serious dispute on this forum about whether 940 heads and 60 tails is statistically significant.

When it is clearly not since our null hypothesis is the coin will flip heads 94% of the time.
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