The "Deep South" is....

[Jacobtm]

How do you define the "Deep South"? Is it just Louisianna, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina, or might North Carolina, Tennessee and even Arkansas be included?

I would think it would just be the first 5, but I'm not positive.

[The Dowager Mod]

Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee

[Frodo]

South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and the panhandle of Florida. 

[Democratic Hawk]

South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and the panhandle of Florida. 

Sounds about right

Dave

[Frodo]

Also:

'Upper South' -Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Virginia

'Border States' -Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Oklahoma.

I am not sure where Texas and the rest of Florida outside the panhandle fit in... 

[Democratic Hawk]

Some might say Texas is as much part of the Southwest nowadays as it is the 'Old South' (i.e. the eleven states of the Confederacy)

Dave

[Frodo]

Some might say Texas is as much part of the Southwest nowadays as it is the 'Old South' (i.e. the eleven states of the Confederacy)

Dave

So Texas would be, by definition, a border state. 

What about Florida? 

[DanielX]

Some might say Texas is as much part of the Southwest nowadays as it is the 'Old South' (i.e. the eleven states of the Confederacy)

Dave

So Texas would be, by definition, a border state. 

What about Florida? 

Florida esta Nueva Cuba.

Actually, Florida's an Outer South/Border state.  A mix of South and not-South, really.

[nclib]

North Carolina

N.C. is not the Deep South. Especially the Raleigh-Durham area has a lot of migrants from the North.

I'd agree with most posters here who say the Deep South is Louisiana through South Carolina.

[phk]

Louisanna, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida Panhandle.

[Democratic Hawk]

Some might say Texas is as much part of the Southwest nowadays as it is the 'Old South' (i.e. the eleven states of the Confederacy)

Dave

So Texas would be, by definition, a border state. 

What about Florida? 

Geographically, as south as you can get . From what I can gather:

Culturally, the northern part of Florida is "Southern" but parts of southern Florida especially the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-West Palm Beach metroplex,  are more "Northern" but even this is a generalisation

Dave

[TheresNoMoney]

The "Deep South" is Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. I only count those three states.

[Sam Spade]

Texas is not the "Deep South", except for parts of East Texas east of Houston.

[angus]

Florida esta Nueva Cuba.

Actualmente, debes usar eso:  "Florida es nueva cuba."

The verb "ser" should be used in this case, conjugated in the 3rd person present tense of course (es), and not the verb "estar"

They taught us in school that the states of SC, MS, AL, and GA constituted the Deep South.  But then I'm old.  Not sure what they're teaching nowadays.  Apparently Festoon has been taught the same as I.  Are you also 38ish Fezzy?

To use Bill Bryson's definition of Deep South from Lost Continent, the Deep South consists of what I mentioned, plus Detroit, Cleveland, Washnington DC, and a good bit of NYC, Dallas, St. Louis, Chicago, and Oakland.  But I prefer the original definition.  By any definition, I can guarantee you Columbus, MS is Deep Deep Deepest South.  I have yet to see a white, asian, or latino at any office in the public service sector.

[A18]

Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Can't really be defined at state level; not all of Alabama is in the Deep South for example.

[afleitch]

Can't really be defined at state level; not all of Alabama is in the Deep South for example.

I would agree. And if you look at urban areas, in particularly Atlanta and it's demographic and political make up I wouldn't consider it to be part of the 'Deep South'

[John Dibble]

I am not sure where ... the rest of Florida outside the panhandle fit in... 

I call that area "The Southern North"

Seriously, the further south you go into florida the less likely you can find a place that offers sweet tea.

[??????????]

I am not sure where ... the rest of Florida outside the panhandle fit in... 

I call that area "The Southern North"

Seriously, the further south you go into florida the less likely you can find a place that offers sweet tea.

Obviously another poster who's never been to Florida.

And if you look at urban areas, in particularly Atlanta and it's demographic and political make up I wouldn't consider it to be part of the 'Deep South'

Actually visit the US and the South before you make that assumption.

[Frodo]

So States, where would you fit Florida?  Is it a Deep South state, or a border state?

[??????????]

So States, where would you fit Florida?  Is it a Deep South state, or a border state?

Deep South (normal)

[afleitch]

Actually visit the US and the South before you make that assumption.

You can make a very valid assumption based solely on demographics and politics. People do that on the forum every day and have never actually visited the state in question. I believe Atlanta to be a characteristically Southen city, but to suggest it shares the same demography, social structure, class and poltiical makeup as a farming county in Alabama is incorrect.

[Gustaf]

Keeping to state borders and using more long-term definitions:

Deep South: GA, AL, MS, LA, SC

Peripheral South: Rest of old confederacy

Border states: OK, WV, MD, DE, KY and MO

[John Dibble]

I am not sure where ... the rest of Florida outside the panhandle fit in... 

I call that area "The Southern North"

Seriously, the further south you go into florida the less likely you can find a place that offers sweet tea.

Obviously another poster who's never been to Florida.

Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. I have relatives in Florida - I go there once a year at least. In Tampa where my grandpa lives there are a number of restaraunts that have only unsweet tea. The standard chain restaraunts tend to offer it, but standalone restaraunts are much less likely - something that is an extreme rarity in Georgia.

[ian]

It's so weird that Arkansas is on few people's lists.  I've always heard that the Deep South is AR, LA, MS, AL, and maybe GA--I can't remember if people put the latter on the list.