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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2004, 09:20:15 am »
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Here in Missouri, the cost of healthcare is dragging everyone down. Also if edwards is picked my vote goes to Kerry and i did vote for bush in 2000. also i know other bush voters in 2000 that are voting for kerry. bush is getting close to being toast here in missouri. 2 more bad months, missouri will be democrat like in 1992
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2004, 09:56:00 am »
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Im extremely skeptical of Zogbys integrity in this election year.  Doesn't it seem interesting that Zogby releases a bunch of state polls at the same time and also more interesting at the worst time for Bush in the polls due to Abu Gharib.  I would say most of those polls are wrong. Oregon is a dead heat with, I say to be a small Bush advantage.  Iowa is going to go for Kerry.  The Washington margin of Kerry needs to be oh I dont know cut off by about 4pts.

why are you so sure Bush is going to do so well in Washington? It's a pretty liberal state and the economy there is horrid.

There is something brewing in Washington and many people see it.  The party there is revitalized more so than ever.  The ground organization is going to be amazing for the GOP. And they have a trifecta of strong Republican candidates: Bush for president, Nethercutt for Senate, and Rossi for governor.  There is also a sherrif running in Seattle-Bellevue CD8 for J. Dunns seat who looks highly likely to win.  They really are sick of liberal control there.  I obviously dont mean that Seattle or Tacoma are going to go for Bush, but he will get margins he needs in King county.

Yeah, but the Dems are targeting the two open GOP House seats like mad as well Wink
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2004, 10:25:29 am »
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Bush is not a strong candidate.  Against anyone but Kerry, Bush would have been unelectible.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2004, 12:12:46 pm »
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Here in Missouri, the cost of healthcare is dragging everyone down. Also if edwards is picked my vote goes to Kerry and i did vote for bush in 2000. also i know other bush voters in 2000 that are voting for kerry. bush is getting close to being toast here in missouri. 2 more bad months, missouri will be democrat like in 1992

Though the other Pennsylvania posters (except Bullmoose88) in here don't want to admit it, same thing in PA.  Bush came off as more of a moderate last time and did surprisingly well in Philadelphia.  Though he only got 18% of the vote here, that is much higher than most Republicans get.  Bush is going to get swamped in Philly and the margin will widen in the suburbs.  Supersoulty thinks Pittsburgh is just gonna flip over...  think again.  I've been reading in the papers and hearing from people that their ecnomy is terrible.  Ok, Bush will do better out there on gun issues and social issues, but if he thinks PA will flip over, he's sadly mistaken!  Arlen Specter will not flip it for him because labor actaully respects him, not Bush!
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2004, 03:49:20 pm »
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Bush is not a strong candidate.  Against anyone but Kerry, Bush would have been unelectible.

Kerry is not a strong candidate. Against anyone but Bush, Kerry would have been unelecatable. Cheesy

Actually, it's self-evident. If 1 of the candidates is weak, both must be since they'er tied. Smiley

What states did you call wrongly Vorlon?

And, as usual, everyone think 'their' candiadte will win win their state... Tongue
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2004, 04:05:29 pm »
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What states did you call wrongly Vorlon?


Iowa & Wisconsin. (%$#@ing cheeseheads)

Looking at 2000 versus 2004 I think one factor that nobody (except me of course Smiley ) has factored in is how good a campaign manager Donna Brazille was from a pure logistical get out the vote point of view.

I am reminded of this because Brazille "stole" Wisconsin, Oregon, Iowa, New Mexico, maybe even Minnesota for Gore,

Gore  was down 2 or 3% in all of those states and she just plain kicked some GOP butt in voter turnout.

Brazille's "Get out the Vote" was really truly outstanding, she just blew away all the turnout projection models in a lot of the big states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, even Ohio to a lesser degree.

Based on what I have seen so far, the Kerry folks are just not even in the same league as Brazille.

Your ground game is worth a difference of maybe 4% or so ultimately, and in 2000 the "Team Brazille" clearly beat "Team Rove" at the ground game, it wasn't even close. - They got the whole 4%

The GOP has done a very good job on the ground so far in 2004, and Kerry better close that gap, and soon...

This to me is the unreported story so far in 2004.

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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2004, 04:09:56 pm »
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What states did you call wrongly Vorlon?


Iowa & Wisconsin. (%$#@ing cheeseheads)

Sorry! Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2004, 06:29:49 pm »
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What states did you call wrongly Vorlon?


Iowa & Wisconsin. (%$#@ing cheeseheads)

Sorry! Tongue

Ah... present company excepted... of course Wink
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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2004, 07:56:25 pm »
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Here in Missouri, the cost of healthcare is dragging everyone down. Also if edwards is picked my vote goes to Kerry and i did vote for bush in 2000. also i know other bush voters in 2000 that are voting for kerry. bush is getting close to being toast here in missouri. 2 more bad months, missouri will be democrat like in 1992

Two things:

#1 no offense but changing your vote because of a vice-presidential candidate is really sad.  I think that you should step back and seriously reconsider that.

#2 Two more bad months and Bush is toast everywhere.  That won't happen though.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2004, 07:59:52 pm »
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Vorlon, step it up.  I can't wait t see the new map.  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2004, 08:02:30 pm »
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Go to http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/CurrentPolls.htm for a breakdown (colors are reversed).
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