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minionofmidas
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« on: March 29, 2006, 07:15:06 AM »

Southern rebellion would have actually been serious rather than purely pro-forma as IRL. They wouldn't have gone for Nixon - the Rep platform had a strong civil rights plank too, that was the prize Nixon had to pay for unanimous nomination. There'd have been a Thurmond-like candidacy.
There's actually no special reason to think Nixon might have picked up any states outside of Texas (perhaps New Mexico as well, not sure about that) - although with the election so close in so many states, it's totally possible.
Then again, Kennedy might actually have done a little better in the midwest, and picked up Wisconsin and perhaps other states as well - although again there's no reason to specifically believe it would have happened.
Bottom line - Election's quite likely to end up in the House, where Kennedy wins, but at the prize of deferring progress on Civil Rights legislation for another decade.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 03:10:41 PM »

Nixon/Lodge in 1960

That's a lot of electoral votes and popular votes you show going to Robertson and Faubus third party.  More than Teddy Roosevelt got in 1912, 88 EV, 17% PV, and more than George Wallace got in 1968, 46 EV, 9% PV.  That would easily make this 1960 third party the most successful third party in U.S. history.  Nonetheless a very interesting map.  It could have happened I suppose.

In your map, JFK would still become President, as I believe the Democrats controlled the House in 1960.  Correct me is I'm wrong.

i think faubus was at his peak in 1960.  he had just gone through the episode with little rock central high school and (sadly) that made him a hero among many southerners.

also, i think most southern democrats still basically despised humphrey in 1960.  wasnt it after his speech at the 1948 democrat convention that the southerners walked out?

yes, democrats controlled the house in 1960.  BUT a lot of their numbers came from the south.  so, who knows how those representatives would have voted
Faubus actually did run as a States Rights candidate in 1960 but never got any traction.
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