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« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2006, 07:16:13 PM »


VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii

This amendment makes it so even if Pacifica doesn't vote for statehood these territories will become part of Hawaii.

Again, we are basically forcing statehood either way with these territories.

Nay on the amendment.
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« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2006, 07:18:48 PM »


VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii

This amendment makes it so even if Pacifica doesn't vote for statehood these territories will become part of Hawaii.

Again, we are basically forcing statehood either way with these territories.

Nay on the amendment.

The vote hasn't started yet, and the islands have no permanent inhabitants.
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« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2006, 07:20:52 PM »


VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii

This amendment makes it so even if Pacifica doesn't vote for statehood these territories will become part of Hawaii.

Again, we are basically forcing statehood either way with these territories.

Nay on the amendment.

The vote hasn't started yet, and the islands have no permanent inhabitants.

Well when the vote starts it will still get a Nay from me unless you can clear things up. I'm not noticing much of a point in making these islands part of a state. What would we get out of this?
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« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2006, 07:22:17 PM »


VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii

This amendment makes it so even if Pacifica doesn't vote for statehood these territories will become part of Hawaii.

Again, we are basically forcing statehood either way with these territories.

Nay on the amendment.

The vote hasn't started yet, and the islands have no permanent inhabitants.

Well when the vote starts it will still get a Nay from me unless you can clear things up. I'm not noticing much of a point in making these islands part of a state. What would we get out of this?

We wouldn't have any territories left in the Pacific if this passed, they'd all be part of states. Besides they don't really have any population so they can't vote.
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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2006, 07:23:58 PM »


We wouldn't have any territories left in the Pacific if this passed, they'd all be part of states. Besides they don't really have any population so they can't vote.

I understand that they can't vote but I don't understand is why we would want these islands as part of a state. What change does this bring? I see no reason to change their territory status.
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« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2006, 07:27:09 PM »


We wouldn't have any territories left in the Pacific if this passed, they'd all be part of states. Besides they don't really have any population so they can't vote.

I understand that they can't vote but I don't understand is why we would want these islands as part of a state. What change does this bring? I see no reason to change their territory status.

Because there is no reason for them to stay territories when they can just as easily become part of a state. They are uninhabited and can easily be administrated by the state with no adverse effects. There really is no reason to have them stay territories.
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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2006, 09:56:48 PM »

And, as previously explained, they are in the Hawaiian chain.
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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2006, 03:28:42 PM »

And, as previously explained, they are in the Hawaiian chain.

No, only Midway is in the chain.

Palmyra and Kingman are in the Northern Line Islands, the rest of which are part of Kiribati.  However, Palmyra was claimed by the Kingdom of Hawaii, it was part of the Territory of Hawaii, but was not included in the State for whatever reason.
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« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2006, 06:26:44 AM »

I hereby open up the vote on this amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii
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« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2006, 06:27:33 AM »

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« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2006, 06:30:08 AM »

Aye

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« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2006, 07:50:26 AM »

Abstain.  This idea seems like one I could support, but either way I'll still be voting nay on the final vote.  Maybe someone should introduce this as a separate bill.
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« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2006, 01:53:59 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2006, 05:29:15 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2006, 06:46:22 PM »

Abstain.
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« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2006, 06:46:30 PM »

Abstain.
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2006, 07:19:29 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2006, 07:20:59 PM »

This amendment has passed.
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« Reply #68 on: April 21, 2006, 01:39:06 PM »

I hereby open the final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


I. After a majority of vote by the citizens of Guam, Atlasian Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands voting in the affirmative in a referendum administrated five days after the passage of this act by the territory governments of the commonwealths of Guam, Atlasian Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands are hereby entered in the Union of Atlasia as a new state of Pacifica.
II. Pacifica shall become a state in the Pacific Region.
III. Pacifica shall be assigned to District 5 until the next round of redistricting when commensurate with the Constitution it shall be liable to be moved to another District.
IV. The state of Pacifica shall be given full rights under whichever region/district it’s placed into and be under full jurisdiction of the Atlasian Constitution.
V. Section 2 of the Miscellany Act shall be amended, following a majority of the citizens of Guam, Atlasian Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands voting in the affirmative to grant Pacifica statehood to contain a clause 6, the text of which shall be as follows: “Pacifica is contiguous to Alaska”, a clause 7, the text of which shall be as follows: “Pacifica is be contiguous to Hawaii”, and a clause 8, the text of which shall be as follows: “Pacifica is contiguous to California”.
VI. Baker Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Kingman Reef and Wake Island shall be part of the state of Pacifica.
VII: Palmyra Atoll and Midway Island shall become part of the state of Hawaii
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« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2006, 01:39:48 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2006, 01:47:44 PM »

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« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2006, 02:44:25 PM »

Nay. We are not admitting rocks that float around in the Pacific with nobody on to the Union.
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« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2006, 03:19:07 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #73 on: April 21, 2006, 05:26:19 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #74 on: April 21, 2006, 07:02:28 PM »

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