Michigan Governor

[Flying Dog]

Granholm. While she has made some mistakes I beleive she is now familiar with michigan politics and will do better in a second term. She is trying hard to keep jobs in michigan and just yesterday she made arrangments in Japan for 8 japanese companies to expand operations in Michigan. These expansions could add up to 18,000 jobs.

DeVos meanwhile has done nothing but blame granholm for the economy. While I respect him and even considered him for a while i think he doesnt know how to operate michigans political landscape. He will get nothing accomplished.

I think granholm will win it 53-46

[Flying Dog]

Granholm; I think she's done an excellent job considering the tough times the state has gone through. The fundamental problems with Michigan's economy have existed for a long time, and I feel that her efforts have been concentrated in the right areas in attemping to improve that.

She has killed our economy.  We now have the 2nd worst economy behind Louisianna (because of Hurr. Katrina)--if we haven't passed them by now.  She has done nothing to improve our school system.  Dick DeVos has a plan--she's done nothing but ruin our wonderful state.  Thankfully she could never run for President--send her back to Canada.

we are also better then Washington State

[Flying Dog]

Granholm; I think she's done an excellent job considering the tough times the state has gone through. The fundamental problems with Michigan's economy have existed for a long time, and I feel that her efforts have been concentrated in the right areas in attemping to improve that.

She has killed our economy.  We now have the 2nd worst economy behind Louisianna (because of Hurr. Katrina)--if we haven't passed them by now.  She has done nothing to improve our school system.  Dick DeVos has a plan--she's done nothing but ruin our wonderful state.  Thankfully she could never run for President--send her back to Canada.

we are also better then Washington State

OK, I'm sorry--3rd in the U.S.--but that's not a big improvement.  I do have to admit--not all of it is her fault.  Some of it lies with the fact that we have so many unions who are always going on strike and hurting companies.  I would like nothing better than for Delphi to end its contract w/ the UAW, and then see the UAW crash and burn.  They complain that their benefits and pay are getting cut, yet that have some of the best benefits and wages per hour out there!  That said, I would like to see Dick DeVos who is not somebody who has been in bed with all the Unions since he began politics.

Once people get something they dont want to give it up. It is human nature. Unions protect employees from the sometimes greedy, corrupt corporate execs and we need them. Dick DeVos needs to know how to work with the unions or else he would not get anything accomplished.

[Flying Dog]

Granholm; I think she's done an excellent job considering the tough times the state has gone through. The fundamental problems with Michigan's economy have existed for a long time, and I feel that her efforts have been concentrated in the right areas in attemping to improve that.

She has killed our economy.  We now have the 2nd worst economy behind Louisianna (because of Hurr. Katrina)--if we haven't passed them by now.  She has done nothing to improve our school system.  Dick DeVos has a plan--she's done nothing but ruin our wonderful state.  Thankfully she could never run for President--send her back to Canada.

we are also better then Washington State

OK, I'm sorry--3rd in the U.S.--but that's not a big improvement.  I do have to admit--not all of it is her fault.  Some of it lies with the fact that we have so many unions who are always going on strike and hurting companies.  I would like nothing better than for Delphi to end its contract w/ the UAW, and then see the UAW crash and burn.  They complain that their benefits and pay are getting cut, yet that have some of the best benefits and wages per hour out there!  That said, I would like to see Dick DeVos who is not somebody who has been in bed with all the Unions since he began politics.

Once people get something they dont want to give it up. It is human nature. Unions protect employees from the sometimes greedy, corrupt corporate execs and we need them. Dick DeVos needs to know how to work with the unions or else he would not get anything accomplished.

I disagree--we needED the unions, but now a company can't get away with mistreatment of workers (other than illegal immigrants, but that's a whole nother issue).  The only reason the unions like Granholm is b/c they live off of all the benefits and above-normal wages--so they want her to pay for their drugs and other stuff when they get older.  We need to get out of being dependent on welfare, or else the entire country will crash and burn like the USSR--to quote from a documentary--"spend into oblivion"--we out-spent money on missiles and made them bankrupt--its the same principle, except we're doing it to ourselves w/ welfare.

Companies still get away with a lot of mistreatment in todays world. Maybe not like the kind they got away with back in the early years but they still do get away with somethings. People are getting their benifits and wages CUT DURING GRANHOLMS ADMINISTRATION. So the unions are warming up to the wrong person then. The only reason that they are getting cut is because GM, Ford and the other U.S. automotive companies are stubborn and will not invest in future gas saving cars and technology. They stubbornly cling to their belief that SUV'S are the way to go. Workers are paying for their mistakes. I dont think we are dependent on welfare. If we are then why are they cutting it so much? I actually believe we need to increase funding for it. But that is kinda hard because the Repulican controlled state legislature drags their feet everytime granholm wants to get something done.

[Flying Dog]

DeVos

In four years of Granholm, we've had no plan except "Cool Cities" and blaming John Engler or Bush.

And you think Mr. DeVos would have a better plan, do you? He endorsed Granholms economic plan for god sakes!

[Flying Dog]

Granholm moved out of Canada when she was 4 years old. The idea that she is Canadian is fairly preposterous. Yes, she is technically an immigrant, but she was quite young.

Excellent points about Amway. I can't respect anyone who made a fortune out of running a pyramid scheme like that.

My calling her a Canadian was in reference to the fact that she's as socialistic as one, not that she's still a Canadian.

Ok, but given the spending cuts that have been enacted to balance the budget under her tenure, without raising taxes, that still doesn't really seem like an accurate description. You are entitled to your opinion.

What spending cuts has she made besides killing the MEAP test money, and not spending any money on fixing our roads (worst in the country)--speaking of roads, why don't we have ANY toll roads at all, or regulations as to truck weights--but that's not her fault--it's been like that for years.

My biggest problem w/ Granholm was the fact that she was all snuggled up w/ Detroit's Mayor Kilpatrick (until he had his 20 scandals)--anyone who is/was on his side is just foolish (speaking of him--how on EARTH did he get re-elected?).

The only county that Granholm has that's valuable is Wayne--and due to her "friendship" w/ Kwame--she may lose more than she expected there.  Not to mention that whatever small liberal part of Grand Rapids will now go to DeVos.  The only way I can honestly see her as beating him is playing the Amway card, which to some, will work, but others will seem like mud-slinging.

Granholm actually reenstated the MEAP money. I think the roads are tolarable and that if they are the worst in the country then we have a pretty good road system. I hate Kilpatrick but his get-out-the-vote effort is remarkable. that is how he won reelection. Granholm has Detroit, Inner Grand rRapids, Ann Arbor. I think whatever loses granholm has in wayne county will be offsett by her strong preformance in southwest michigan (the economy is well off their). Flint, saginAW and midland will revert to their dem roots and vote for her.

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I can see Flint and Saginaw, but Midland's about 57% Republican. I assume you mean Bay City.

I should have been more specific. The city of midland, not the county. And bay city.

[Flying Dog]

City of Midland (Midland County)
56.55% Bush (04)
57.49% Bush (2000)
57.98% Posthumus

There IS a small part of Midland that is democrat over in Bay County, but that's one precinct.

I stand corrected. I was wrong. Thanks for the info.

[Flying Dog]

rep base support 45-46%


dem base suppor 48-49%