Will Immagration Make The United States More Conservative Or More Liberal?

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

The continental interior south of the great lakes desertifying plus the spread of tropical diseases northward will make people flee to the great lakes/coasts. Ah it will be nice to see the Northeast/great lakes/west coast having the whip hand in US politics permanently.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Populist I would say, by which I mean socially conservative, but economically moderate to liberal.  No wonder Bush wants immigration reform, by the issues, these are his kind of voters!

[War on Want]

    Lets keep in mind that the Hispanic vote will most likely switch from leans Democratic to more moderate of the next 25-30 years as Hispanics begin to move up the social-economic ladder.   

I doubt it. Mexican-Americans, and other Hispanics are naturally Democrats.

[Jaggerjack]

    Lets keep in mind that the Hispanic vote will most likely switch from leans Democratic to more moderate of the next 25-30 years as Hispanics begin to move up the social-economic ladder.   

They sure swung Republican from 2004-2006

[memphis]

The immagration trend this country is currently going through is no diffrent from when our ancesters came to this country.

I cannot, and will not adress what the "immigtration trend" was when you ancestors came to this country, but, I can address the circumstances when most legal immigration did occur, and the differences between it and the current presence of illegal aliens in our country.

There is that pesky little concept of obeying immigtration laws.  Those persons who arrived in the great waves of legal immigration to the United States (circa 1850 = 1917), obeyed the laws, whereas current illegal aliens don't.

I am constantly amused by the absurd lingtuistic devices used to try to excuse illetgal activity.  Lets consider the current attempt to rename illegal aliens as 'undocumented' aliens.

Now, it seems to me that an account holder at a bank upon presentation of proper 'documents' can withdraw his/her money from said bank.  So, should a robber who doesn't have such documents have the right to make similiar withdrawls?

There were almost no immigration laws to ignore before the First World War. With the exception of the Chinese Exclusion Act, if people arrived in America and were healthy, they were generally admitted without the endless red tape that has since become synonymous with the immigration process.

[DanielX]

Where Hispanics go in the coming decades depends as much as on which direction the Republicans go as anything else.

A very populist Republican party, one that deemphasizes economics in favor of "family values", will be very appealing to Catholic voters - and Hispanics are overwhelmingly Catholic. Republicans already hold a majority of white Catholics (a change over the past few decades), and a good 40% or so of Hispanics, so its not unreasonable that a small to moderate change in policy will swing a majority. The one problem with this is immigration issues: attempting to find a compromise between socially conservative Hispanics and socially conservative Midwesterners on this issue could be tricky; the coalition may well fall apart after a few elections, much like the Reagan coalition or the longer-lasting but still destroyed New Deal coalition.

A more 'paleo-conservative', 'fiscal conservative', or 'libertarian' Republican party, OTOH, will not gain much ground among Hispanics, if any. They may gain ground among some groups, but not enough as a whole to hold a majority.

Other immigrant groups will vote differently. One group I can easily see going Republican, whichever way it goes, are Indian-Americans (from India). I also don't think recent Eastern European and Russian immigrants are as solidly Democrat as their ancestors, although I may be mistaken here (it could also be a cold war artifact, much like the Republican's two biggest minority voters, Cuban-Americans and Vietnamese-Americans).

[Jaggerjack]

Where Hispanics go in the coming decades depends as much as on which direction the Republicans go as anything else.

A very populist Republican party, one that deemphasizes economics in favor of "family values", will be very appealing to Catholic voters - and Hispanics are overwhelmingly Catholic. Republicans already hold a majority of white Catholics (a change over the past few decades), and a good 40% or so of Hispanics, so its not unreasonable that a small to moderate change in policy will swing a majority. The one problem with this is immigration issues: attempting to find a compromise between socially conservative Hispanics and socially conservative Midwesterners on this issue could be tricky; the coalition may well fall apart after a few elections, much like the Reagan coalition or the longer-lasting but still destroyed New Deal coalition.

A more 'paleo-conservative', 'fiscal conservative', or 'libertarian' Republican party, OTOH, will not gain much ground among Hispanics, if any. They may gain ground among some groups, but not enough as a whole to hold a majority.

Other immigrant groups will vote differently. One group I can easily see going Republican, whichever way it goes, are Indian-Americans (from India). I also don't think recent Eastern European and Russian immigrants are as solidly Democrat as their ancestors, although I may be mistaken here (it could also be a cold war artifact, much like the Republican's two biggest minority voters, Cuban-Americans and Vietnamese-Americans).

Among Asian-Americans, Indians are one of the most solidly Democratic groups.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Illegal immigrants will vote for whoever makes them legal (ex. Cubans)

[War on Want]

The continental interior south of the great lakes desertifying plus the spread of tropical diseases northward will make people flee to the great lakes/coasts. Ah it will be nice to see the Northeast/great lakes/west coast having the whip hand in US politics permanently.

My Mom is an Mexican-Immigrant, and she has no bad tropical disaeses.

[Kevin]

The continental interior south of the great lakes desertifying plus the spread of tropical diseases northward will make people flee to the great lakes/coasts. Ah it will be nice to see the Northeast/great lakes/west coast having the whip hand in US politics permanently.

My Mom is an Mexican-Immigrant, and she has no bad tropical disaeses.

Ignore him he is just a troll.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

I meant in terms of climate change caused by global warming. You lose. I win. Good. You have heeled.

[Person Man]

Another thing that I have noticed is that  as Hispanics stay longer in this country, they tend to take on its politics more and more by the generation.

[Governor PiT]

liberals have stopped breeding so the only way for them to stay in power is to bring in foreigners.

[Lief 🗽]

liberals have stopped breeding so the only way for them to stay in power is to bring in foreigners.

Yeah, Robert, that's the plan.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

liberals have stopped breeding so the only way for them to stay in power is to bring in foreigners.

No.

[Governor PiT]

liberals abort all their own children so they they foreigners to replace them. if it wasn;t for immigration we would have a conservative majority.

[Person Man]

...ummm...conservatives still have abortions and if overturning Roe actually works in reducing abortion rates, you would see the liberal population grow again. ...and does a conservative parent always have a conservative child? I mean, if liberals always have had less kids, why are there still liberals?

[Governor PiT]

Because they set up the University System to create new liberals. thats why I'm for ending all Government funding of higher education.

[2952-0-0]

Because they set up the University System to create new liberals. thats why I'm for ending all Government funding of higher education.

Oh yes, we have a Mao wannabe here...

[Хahar 🤔]

One group I can easily see going Republican, whichever way it goes, are Indian-Americans (from India).

Why are you looking back this far? I was right that Indians wouldn't start voting Republican and this thread is filled with awful posters.

[Governor PiT]

More democratic but at the same time socially conservative. look at what happened with gay marriage in California because of latino voters.

[Lunar]

53% of Hispanics voted yes; 52% of the electorate voted yes.


64% of all Catholics voted yes

[Matt Damon™]

latins will move mainstream to the populist/statist left(especially the big bulge we'll get when mexico comes apart and we inherit the country when most of it's citizens flee here)

basically more populist/redistributionist on economics but more populist/majoritarian/less top down socially

[??????????]

Remains to be seen really. The idea of some Democrat super majority is preposterous to say the least. If conservatives survived the Depression/WW2 era, we'll survive this.

[phk]

America will become more socially conservative and economically be even still (pulled in both directions).