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« on: June 01, 2006, 06:22:56 PM »

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/64396.htm


May 29, 2006 -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a polarizing figure who's short on the crossover appeal needed to win the White House, a new poll shows.
The poll found 42 percent of Americans say no way to Clinton in 2008.

Just 19 percent say they'd definitely vote for Clinton, another 38 percent would consider it, and 42 percent say they definitely won't back her if she runs, the ABC News poll found.

That means Clinton could win a majority only by winning over 80 percent of those who are now undecided on her candidacy.

 

The poll underscored the fact that Clinton has little crossover appeal - 74 percent of Republicans and 43 percent of swing independents say there's no way they'd back her.

By contrast, potential 2008 rival Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has less support from his base but more crossover appeal. Even among Democrats he has a 50 percent positive, 35 percent negative rating.

That suggests Clinton would find it easier to get her party's nomination but tougher to win a general election. McCain tops Clinton in most polls that pit them against each other.

Clinton gets a boost from women but has trouble with men. Women were 13 percent more likely to back her in the poll of 1,103 adults, conducted May 11-15. It has a 3-point error margin.

It was released as Clinton kicked her Senate reelection bid into high gear - perhaps in preparation for a 2008 campaign launch - by releasing a video that co-stars her ex-president hubby, Bill Clinton.

Clinton's ties to her husband aren't a big issue according to the poll. Just 9 percent say he has too much influence over her, while 14 percent say it's too little and 60 percent say it's about right.

In fact, Bill Clinton's overall ratings are, if anything, slightly better than his wife's. About 59 percent of voters see him favorably compared to 54 percent for her.

A Los Angeles Times editorial yesterday urged Sen. Clinton to skip 2008 so her hubby can succeed Kofi Annan as U.N. secretary-general. "The world needs Bill more than the U.S. needs Hillary," the paper said.

But Asian nations claim it's their turn for the U.N. job, and there's no sign that President Bush would back his predecessor for the post.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2006, 05:53:59 AM »

Yep.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2006, 11:42:09 AM »

http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm#misc

That link says a lot about Hillary's "base" and her "viability".
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2006, 10:20:25 PM »

The problem the democrats have is that Hillary has millions and millions of dollars to run on in 2008
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2006, 10:39:07 PM »

The problem the democrats have is that Hillary has millions and millions of dollars to run on in 2008

It's not like there aren't other heavily funded 2008 nominees.

It would actually be better for the GOP if Hillary was more popular, so there wouldn't be such an anti-Clinton sentiment in her own party.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2006, 10:41:42 PM »

Dean was a well-funded, poll leading, media darling, too. And we Democrats averted that train wreck, we'll avert this one too.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2006, 11:03:32 PM »

What difference does money make when people don't like you? Conrad Burns has an ASSLOAD of money, but is he going to win re-election? No. Rick Santorum has even more money than Conrad Burns...is going to steal the election away? Nope.

Hillary could have the Bill Gates fortune in her campaign coffers and still lose in this upcoming election. She just isn't popular.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2006, 11:08:46 PM »

Money certainly doesn't buy votes. Clinton won't be the nominee in 2008.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2006, 11:11:33 PM »

Money certainly doesn't buy votes. Clinton won't be the nominee in 2008.

It doesn't necessarily buy votes in a general election, but it can go a long way toward buying the nomination.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2006, 03:59:04 AM »

The problem the democrats have is that Hillary has millions and millions of dollars to run on in 2008

As Crystal Pepsi and Steve Forbes proved, some products will not sell no matter how much money you waste on advertising.

She is unelectable. Anybody who thinks she can win is off their rocker.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2006, 04:03:04 AM »

As Crystal Pepsi and Steve Forbes proved, some products will not sell no matter how much money you waste on advertising.

I don't know about you, but I was a little creeped out by having my own personal Steve Forbes follow me into the bathroom.  They should have probably fixed that.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 08:11:09 AM »

Attention Democrats:  Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world.  She would be a powerful candidate.  Nominate her.

That is all.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 01:32:32 PM »

Attention Democrats:  Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world.  She would be a powerful candidate.  Nominate her.

That is all.

Haha. I don't think anyone is quite that stupid. Then again...they did pick Kerry in 2004.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2006, 08:59:35 PM »

Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world. 


And I have hot passionate sex with Jessica Simpson every single day.   

Anybody else want to play "type the most ludicrous statement you can think of?"   
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2006, 09:09:54 PM »

Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world. 


And I have hot passionate sex with Jessica Simpson every single day.   

Anybody else want to play "type the most ludicrous statement you can think of?"   

I'll give it a go.

"Bush is a Conservative"
"70% of the nation is wrong, bush is a fantastic president"
"Gore won 2000"
"9/11 was a conspiracy"
"Kerry won Ohio"
"Tom DeLay is a good man"
"Santorum could still win the senate race"

That's all I could think of at the moment.


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