What do these people have in common?

[CARLHAYDEN]

You may not have heard of the names (not in the MSM), but they're all available on the internet.

They all have a couple of things in common:

Kris Eggle
Tanee Natividad
Robert Sitek
Marc Atkinson
Kenneth Collings
James Lee
Emilia Lee

[Gabu]

I'm going to venture a wild guess that they're all doing something relating to illegal immigration.

[Jake]

I'm going to venture a wild guess that they're all doing something relating to illegal immigration.

Bingo.

Getting killed by them.

[CARLHAYDEN]

I'm going to venture a wild guess that they're all doing something relating to illegal immigration.

Bingo.

Getting killed by them.

Actually, officer Sitek survived, despite being shot four times.

Also, they are all Arizonans.

[Gabu]

Bingo.

Getting killed by them.

Oh, okay.

Well, Timothy McVeigh was born in America and was therefore a US citizen.  He killed 168 people.  So were John Wayne Gacy and Charles Manson. Whoever these illegal immigrants are, they clearly have nothing on US citizens.

Since nobody on this board has ever asserted that all illegal immigrants are good people, this is rather a pointless discussion.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Bingo.

Getting killed by them.

Oh, okay.

Well, Timothy McVeigh was born in America and was therefore a US citizen.  He killed 168 people.  So were John Wayne Gacy and Charles Manson. Whoever these illegal immigrants are, they clearly have nothing on US citizens.

Since nobody on this board has ever asserted that all illegal immigrants are good people, this is rather a pointless discussion.

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

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Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

Yes, the Trail of Tears would have never occured.

[YRABNNRM]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

Yes, the Trail of Tears would have never occured.

You're a good man.

[Gabu]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

And if we stopped all immigration, we could eliminate murders that involved legal immigrants... and if we stopped births, we could eliminate all murders!

Of course, the point is that illegal immigrants are not legimitately part of the country, which is a fair point.  I'm not even arguing that we shouldn't stop illegal immigrants from entering the country.  I don't see anything wrong with stopping them, in fact.  I support making legal immigration not take years in order to better facilitate the admittance of qualified people and on cracking down on illegal immigration, even if I really don't care and even if it's not exactly a hot-button topic for me.  I'm just saying that you're trying to refute an argument that has never even been made, and I have no idea why you're doing it.  Nobody has ever said that all illegal immigrants are good people.

[MODU]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

Yes, the Trail of Tears would have never occured.

Bonus points for JFern.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

And if we stopped all immigration, we could eliminate murders that involved legal immigrants... and if we stopped births, we could eliminate all murders!

Of course, the point is that illegal immigrants are not legimitately part of the country, which is a fair point.  I'm not even arguing that we shouldn't stop illegal immigrants from entering the country.  I don't see anything wrong with stopping them, in fact.  I support making legal immigration not take years in order to better facilitate the admittance of qualified people and on cracking down on illegal immigration, even if I really don't care and even if it's not exactly a hot-button topic for me.  I'm just saying that you're trying to refute an argument that has never even been made, and I have no idea why you're doing it.  Nobody has ever said that all illegal immigrants are good people.

What you fail to understand is that legal immigrants are screened, and have a far lower crime rate than illegal aliens.

Yes, I agree that legal immigration for highly qualified immigrants should be increased (nurses for example.

[bgwah]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

Yes, the Trail of Tears would have never occured.

Yeah, those illegal immigrants are vicious murderers.