California satan day election results

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Primaries:
http://vote.ss.ca.gov/

3.0% reporting
Governor: Angelides leads Westly 48.5-43.1
Lt. Governor: Garamendi leads Speier 42.4-41.1
Secretary of State: Debra Bowen winning
Controller: Chiang leads Dunn 54.0-46.0
Treasurer: Lockyer unopposed
Attorney Gneeral: Jerry Brown winning
Insurance commissioner: Bustamente winning (damn)
US Senate: Feinstein landsliding (I voted against her)

CA-11: Not reporting

Prop 81 is 46.3%
Prop 82 is 41.9%







CA-50: Bilbray leads Bushby 50.6-42.9 with 11.4% reporting. Both are easily winning their primaries at the same time (confusing, huh?).
http://www.sdvote.org/election/congress.xml

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they are absentee only.  Republicans always lead in early absentee returns

I'm not sure if Republicans always lead absentees in California, but in any case, CA-50 has 57/500 precincts reporting.

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Results are coming in slowly.  Primary updates with 6.7% in:

Governor:  Angelides beating Westly 48.1-42.9
lt. Governor: Flip flopping lead with Garamendi beating Speier 43.1-40.5
Controller: Chiang leading Dunn 52.3-47.7

Both Props likely going down

CA-50 returns stalled.

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Man, this election is really slow.

9.1%
Governor: Angelides beating Westly 47.1-43.8
Lt. Gov.: Garamendia beating Speier 42.5-41.0
Controller: Chiang beating Dunn 52.7-47.3

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Have California's Democratic primary voters just handed Schwarzenegger victory or what?

Dave

He would likely have won no matter whom Democrats chose, so it really doesn't make that big of a difference. 

Yeah, that's right, when Arnold is down 10 points to the candidate I voted for in the primary in a poll, he's completely invulnerable.

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Here's a map of Prop 82, useful for determining how economically liberal a county is.



We can conclude that San Francisco and Alameda are highly liberal, Imperial county is California's lone populist county, Napa is libertarian, and Orange county is conservative.

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jfern, would you say that Alpine is populist, or it's just a solid split between liberals and conservatives?  The precinct results indicate that it is split between fairly conserative areas and very liberal ones.

Seeing as last year, 63% of them voted against parental notification when a minor gets an abortion, I'd say they are definitely socially liberal.

Imperial county is the only populist county in California. A candidate like Frodo would likely lose our 55 electoral votes.

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A number of socially conservative counties didn't vote for Washington's partial birth abortion ban.  I'm not always convinced that abortion votes are the best ways to determine that sort of thing.

For instance, the moderately Republican but generally middle-class Clark County voted against legalising marijuana.  I wouldn't call it populist, just suburbanite conservative.  If you kow what I'm getting at...

Sometimes I think that there are a lot of "cultural conservatives" out there who are more uncomfortable than they realise with social conservatism.

Apples to orange comparision, partial birth abortion is a non-medical term, and did the ban make an exception to save the life of the woman? Also, Alpine county did vote for Kerry and Boxer.

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It is also a fact that incumbent governors in California usually win re-election after suffering serious setbacks early in their first terms. 

But what was the logic behind your statement to fern? 

Look, I think Arnold will win too, but you brought up this thing about 2004 exit polls which had nothing to do with the discussion.

Jfern seems especially gullible when it comes to polls, so I asked in a mocking and sarcastic manner whether he also took the exit polls in 2004 at face value as he seems to be doing now with regard to Angelides' supposed lead over Schwarzenegger, and deducing from that that he will win in November. 

It was merely a hypothetical question that was more a statement than an actual question. 

Go start a war, stupid warmonger.

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It is also a fact that incumbent governors in California usually win re-election after suffering serious setbacks early in their first terms. 

But what was the logic behind your statement to fern? 

Look, I think Arnold will win too, but you brought up this thing about 2004 exit polls which had nothing to do with the discussion.

Jfern seems especially gullible when it comes to polls, so I asked in a mocking and sarcastic manner whether he also took the exit polls in 2004 at face value as he seems to be doing now with regard to Angelides' supposed lead over Schwarzenegger, and deducing from that that he will win in November. 

It was merely a hypothetical question that was more a statement than an actual question. 

Go start a war, stupid warmonger.

Good response.

The only poll showing Angelides ahead is LA Times. I rest my case.

There were others before the primary really got under way. It's awfully arrogant of you out of state DINOs to be calling this race already.

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An awful lot of fuss about the whopping 700 voters in Alpine County!   Since .00564% of the state's voters live there, it could be crucial!

It's an interesting topic of discussion because it used to be an extraordinarily Republican county and now it is not.  What's the big deal?

Well from what I understand it's basically 40% Mormon, 25% Peyotist, and 30% young tourism industry workers who were probably mostly born in the Bay Area and the northern part of the Central Valley. (adds to 95% because there's bound to be some people who don't fit in)... and the recent growth (huge in percentage, though small in numbers) is in the last of these figures. Hardly surprising it changed hands, then.

I assume that Mono county is similar?

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The general election campaign is in full gear.

Here's Angelides with Westly and the State Assembly Speaker.



Anyways, some people on this forum may be underating Angelides. He was the California Democratic chair from 1991-1993. California basically changed from a Republican state to a Democratic state in that period. DiFi won a Republican Senate seat, while the other seat went to liberal Boxer. In the previous 10 Presidential elections, California had only gone for LBJ in his blowout landslide. California is now a safe Democrat state.

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Why haven't they polled the governor race yet?

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Well, it looks like the so called media will continue their extreme pro-Arnold bias they had in 2003.

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http://www.newwestnotes.com/angelides-health-care-plan-third-times-charm/


This is pathetic, quit sucking Arnold's dick, and actually cover our guy.

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Some obscure poll has Arnold up 42-38.