Interesting dialogue going on between liberals and libertarians

[MaC]

Look ma! the liberals are trying out a new label.

[MaC]

Well of course the libertarian leaning Republicans don't like this.

What part of liberals don't like the term 'liberal' so they have to reinvent themselves to cope with their mental disorder don't you understand?

First it was 'centrist', then it was 'progressive', and now libertarian dem...

[MaC]

There are 'civil liberties' Libertarians, ones that are pro-free speech above all else.  To appeal to the left we should try to emphasize matters such as being against war (except for the last resort) and for separation of church and state (at least the extent we can be).  Sorry jfern, I can kinda see where you're goin with this, be you can't expect me to support a 'libertarian' that's against a free market.

[MaC]

There are 'civil liberties' Libertarians, ones that are pro-free speech above all else.  To appeal to the left we should try to emphasize matters such as being against war (except for the last resort) and for separation of church and state (at least the extent we can be).  Sorry jfern, I can kinda see where you're goin with this, be you can't expect me to support a 'libertarian' that's against a free market.

M&C, you realize your party's economic beliefs alienate 95% of Americans, in their current form?  If ya'll ever wanted to make some games, ya'll are going to have to make some compromises.  Ya'll can pick up on the libertarian liberals when I sieze control of the Democratic Party in 2032

Bah, free markets have been looking more favorable since the 80s.  Not in the ultra-libertarian sense, but if someone's going in the same direction as I am, who am I to stick out my foot and trip them.

Besides, I'm sure nobody in your party actually agrees 100% with your platform-as a platform is only part of the equation.

Hell, I'd be ecstatic if my party recieved 7% of the vote.

[MaC]

Sounds good to me.

Question is, can the "Green"-type democrats and the populist type democrats take an infusion of libertarians into the fold?

EWWWWWWW

Aww...whats wrong with us

Absolutely nothing.  It's the far left that's icky.

[MaC]

Yeah, the democratic party should change and throw out the socialists and welfare statists-we're not the ones that should have to change.

[MaC]

Well, anybody in Economics, the think tanks, the professors, have generally set a neo-classical overtone for the authority on economics.  We've seen Keynesian economics come and go.  Stagflation in the '70s kinda refutes a big chunk of Keynesianism.  I think if the Democrats got with the times and understand that we have to do more to free up markets from regulation, lower taxes, lessen tariffs, and so forth to bring about a prosperous nation-and that this isn't a rich versus poor thing.  As a matter of freer markets the poor should have more money to invest, and less regulation keeps them from losing their jobs.