Lieberman refuses to rule out running as an Independent

[adam]

Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

Exactly.

Was he worse than Geraldine Ferraro, or George HW Bush?

[Downwinder]

LBJ ran for re-election to the U.S. Senate in 1960 while being on the ticket with JFK. There is historical precedent and on a winning ticket at that.

Not great precedent.  JFK's election was far from a sure thing, and LBJ wasn't wild about him.

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Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.

And he was right!

Worst VP candidate since..err...ever.

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Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

The key word was candidate. Of course there are crappy VPs, like the two that kind of committed treason, Aaron Burr and John Breckenridge.

[jimrtex]

LBJ ran for re-election to the U.S. Senate in 1960 while being on the ticket with JFK. There is historical precedent and on a winning ticket at that.

Lloyd Bentsen as well in 1988 (not with JFK - but he knew him).

[Eraserhead]

Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.

And he was right!

Worst VP candidate since..err...ever.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

The key word was candidate. Of course there are crappy VPs, like the two that kind of committed treason, Aaron Burr and John Breckenridge.

Correct.

[The Duke]

Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.

And he was right!

Worst VP candidate since..err...ever.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

The key word was candidate. Of course there are crappy VPs, like the two that kind of committed treason, Aaron Burr and John Breckenridge.

Thomas Eagleton was never a Vice President, he was only a candidate.

[Mr. Paleoconservative]

Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.

And he was right!

Worst VP candidate since..err...ever.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

The key word was candidate. Of course there are crappy VPs, like the two that kind of committed treason, Aaron Burr and John Breckenridge.

In Breckenridge's defense, he was at least out of office when he decided to  join with the Confederacy (and with the Government he believed the people of his home state truly supported).

[GOP = Terrorists]

Does Connecticut have an open primary?

No.

[MODU]

With statements like this, he deserves to lose the primary. He got elected in 1988 with the support of the RNC, he spouted off right-wing talking points during the 2000 recount, and now he won't rule out leaving the Democratic party. Time to show him the door. He's not a team player.

Government service is not about being a "team player."  You're sent to represent your state, not some party.

In any case, I think Joe should jump from the Dems and become an independent now.  It would be nice to see another (I) in congress.  Hell, it would be nice if they were all (I).

[Keystone Phil]

In any case, I think Joe should jump from the Dems and become an independent now.  It would be nice to see another (I) in congress.  Hell, it would be nice if they were all (I).

I'd love for him to stay as an Independent but he wouldn't. The establishment is by his side and he'd return the favor by rejoining the Dems if he was to win as an Independent.

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Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.

[MasterJedi]

Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.

So?

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Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.

So?

He's running in a Democratic primary, which has people who might actually care about how many corrupt Republicans he's friends with.

[Mr. Paleoconservative]

Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.

So?

I think he is trying to portray Lieberman's attempt to be a Senator for ALL of CT in a negative light.  Just more overly partisan B.S. from a Lamont troll.

[Alcon]

jfern, I've received several calls from the RNC.  Cross-party fundraising must be in this season.

Reagan Raider, I don't think it's fair to call jfern a "troll."  He may be abrasive, but it's clear that he is not a troll.

[MasterJedi]

Reagan Raider, I don't think it's fair to call jfern a "troll."  He may be abrasive, but it's clear that he is not a troll.

I believe hack would be the better term.

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jfern, I've received several calls from the RNC.  Cross-party fundraising must be in this season.

Reagan Raider, I don't think it's fair to call jfern a "troll."  He may be abrasive, but it's clear that he is not a troll.

You probably did something to get on their list. I've gotten tons of stuff from Democrats and nothing from Republicans.

[MasterJedi]

jfern, I've received several calls from the RNC.  Cross-party fundraising must be in this season.

Reagan Raider, I don't think it's fair to call jfern a "troll."  He may be abrasive, but it's clear that he is not a troll.

You probably did something to get on their list. I've gotten tons of stuff from Democrats and nothing from Republicans.

Not really, my family hasn't done anything and we get stuff from the Dems and Reps.

[Q]

From the Political Wire:

"According to Hotline On Call, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee 'fully supports' Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in his primary bid against Ned Lamont (D), 'and he refused to rule out continuing that support if Lieberman were to run as an independent.'

"Schumer explained that there were degrees of independence: 'You can run as an independent, you can run as an independent Democrat who pledges to vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader.'"


Supporting Lieberman in the primary I understand, but for the DSCC to support someone not a member of the party over a member of the party would be disgrace.

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From the Political Wire:

"According to Hotline On Call, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee 'fully supports' Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in his primary bid against Ned Lamont (D), 'and he refused to rule out continuing that support if Lieberman were to run as an independent.'

"Schumer explained that there were degrees of independence: 'You can run as an independent, you can run as an independent Democrat who pledges to vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader.'"


Supporting Lieberman in the primary I understand, but for the DSCC to support someone not a member of the party over a member of the party would be disgrace.

It's no wonder that the Democratic party can't win elections. I guess Schumer wants the DSCC to become irrelevant. Anyone with a clue will just donate directly to the competitive Senate races if they're going to waste money defeating the Democratic nominee in CT.

[TheresNoMoney]

Lieberman is such a coward that he will likely switch to independent before the Democratic primary rolls around. He is scared to death of losing to Lamont.

[Frodo]

With statements like this, he deserves to lose the primary. He got elected in 1988 with the support of the RNC, he spouted off right-wing talking points during the 2000 recount, and now he won't rule out leaving the Democratic party. Time to show him the door. He's not a team player.

Government service is not about being a "team player."  You're sent to represent your state, not some party.

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At this point, making contingency plans to run as an independent would be a good idea for Lieberman, especially considering the fact that Senator Chuck Schumer has said that the DSCC would support him over Lamont even if Joe loses the primary or bolts the party beforehand.  I do not think that Lieberman would have much of a problem in gaining the required signatures among the general registered population for an independent candidacy.  He may not be a hot commodity among leftwing Democrats, but among ordinary voters, who knows? 

Question: if Senator Lieberman were to run as an independent against Ned Lamont and a generic Republican, would he likely win, and if so by how much?  Also, have any polls been done on this scenario?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Who exactly is Lamont?

[TheresNoMoney]

www.nedlamont.com

[© tweed]

Who exactly is Lamont?

He's the good guy.  Lieberman is the bad guy.