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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2006, 07:13:19 PM »

That still doesn't work.  You can't use "the people I talk to don't like him" as an argument.

If I can't, than why can any pollsters? What makes my data so much more invalid.

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I doubt that. Kerry lost because he couldn't make up his mind, I would be willing to bet that a Wes Clark or a Richard Gephardt could have been able to trump Bush. Granted, Bush's approval rating was higher than normal during the election...but Kerry had plenty of ammunition that he never got a chance to use. He was far to busy trying to save his ass from the media.

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As I said, I understand that it's a very partisan district. However,  let's put it this way. Busby was leading in polls until she made a remark encouraging illegal immigrants to support her campaign. She then floundered and lost the election to an otherwise weak candidate. I am not denying that she did decently (granted with the help of a conservative independent)...the point that I am trying to make is that one dumb comment on immigration killed her campaign....proving that the corruption culture strategy isn't going to overwhelm this issue. It would be dumb for Democratic strategists to suggest that.
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2006, 09:25:08 AM »

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Good point.  Hell, why can't I perform brain surgery?  What makes me so much less qualified than doctors?

The second point: it's a perception issue so no point in arguing it.  The issue isn't rooted in fact, rather, perception.

Third issue: I can't beat the same points into the ground anymore.  You don't seem to get it so I'm going to leave you on your merry way in your CA50 dreamland.
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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2006, 07:20:04 PM »

Hell, why can't I perform brain surgery?  What makes me so much less qualified than doctors?

Because they go to Doctor's school, lol. I don't thinkt hey have pollster school, otherwise I might go for awhile.

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Likewise sir. Smiley Agree to disagree.
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2006, 09:15:19 PM »

Hell, why can't I perform brain surgery?  What makes me so much less qualified than doctors?

Because they go to Doctor's school, lol. I don't thinkt hey have pollster school, otherwise I might go for awhile.

Actually they do.  For the most part, that's what a university poll is.  Polling isn't just going out and talking to people in a random sample.  It's a scientific process and even after days of work and calling and weighting it's still somewhat of a crapshoot.
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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2006, 09:54:25 PM »

Edwards.
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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2006, 08:50:03 PM »

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Edwards with 278.
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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2006, 11:26:31 PM »

I don't see how an empty suit like Edwards can win after four years out of the spotlight.
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